I think that even if you are not christian,you will make it in heaven! How do we know if what the bible says is true? We don't really have a reliable source for that. And just because you are not a follower does not? mean you are not his children.If God truly created us equally, in some way, why would there need to be a reason for going to hell or to heaven? In god's eyes we are his children,and nothing can change that.You shouldn't always trust something you read. I mean how do we know that they are hiding the truth from us with this bible?? How do we know it's not all made up?
TheEarlofZercesThe rules for Scrabble don't apply to those who play Monopoly.
BlueRainbut we're not playing monopoly or scrabble. we're playing Life and while you can certainly try to play Life with monopoly rules, you aren't going to win (or even make it out of the gate).
Says who? Says you? Says the one who is playing by the rules of Scrabble? Are Scrabble and Monopoly really that different in the end? Sure, they both have different pieces and objectives and even rules, but in the end they're both equally capable of achieving fun and entertainment. Like with religions, they're all different, but in the end, they're all capable of achieving self-actualization, which is what every human hopes to attain, whether through organized religion, internal intuition, empir... (more »)
bemark12Well, I think you have to back up your own point, personally. You can criticize the Christian basis for Hell, but then you have to provide your own basis for a universal Heaven. How do you know that we are all God's children in his eyes? Where is your evidence for that point?
Personally, I would encourage you to explore the Bible's authenticity. I believe there is good evidence to believe that the Bible is faithful to the events it claims to record. You might disagree with me after exa... (more »)
And equally, if there is no God, or the bible is not the truth, it wouldn't change just because you can't acknowledge it. The possibility is equal on both sides. If the bible is true, then your opinion shouldn't change just because people don't like it. If you absolutely believe it to be true, then follow it, but there are those who absolutely believe it to be false. They both have credible reasons, considering that the bible wasn't even written in English (the language we are speaking now), it ... (more »)
kirisutowoshinjite said...
Oct. 28, 2011 at 5:28 pm:
Oct. 28, 2011 at 5:28 pm:
I know what the bible says is true because the word of God is living. There are many proofs to my faith. For example, the supernatural love that I feel from God. Love like that isn't just a dream. It's not of the imagination. We are God's children, but Hell is eternal separation from God. If we chose to be separated from God on earth, than so shall we be forever. My personal belief is that if you are Jewish or some other nonchristian faith that believes in God, then He doesn't love you any le... (more »)
People who don't believe in God don't really choose to be separated. It's kind of like having a card marked "Separate" and a card marked "Not Separate", and then those cards are covered by cups and are mixed around and we have to choose which one. We don't know which one is better, but we're going in blind because we don't know which one is true or even which is where. Christians may claim that by joining them you are relieving them of blindness, but it gives you a different kind of blindness.
Life is about choosing which cup you want. Hopefully, maybe there is no separate. Maybe everyone's path leads there, and the ultimate goal of life is to understand that diversity, even in religion, will not be punished but encouraged. Maybe That is men's true sin, to not allow diversity. Maybe that is the path God wants us to discover, how to live with one another and celebrate our different viewpoints. Diversity can bring chaos only because men have not trully accpeted how to live with people w... (more »)
dolphin13There are other historic records about the people in the Bible. How do you know that it isn't true? Do you have any proof against it? God loves everyone of us and wants us to be with him in heaven, but we sin and there is a consequence for sin. Parents punish their children for their wrongdoing, but it doesn't mean that they don't love them. It is out of love that we are punished.
oh and God sent us a savior so that way we still can be with him in heaven, all we have to do is believe. Really, what do we have to lose?
With the Christian's theory we are relying on people who lived thousands of years ago. Whether you will admit it or not, the bible is a book, maybe to some a very special book, but a book just the same. It was written by men, human men, and so when you say you trust in God, you are really saying you trust in those men, because they could be telling the truth or they could have just made up those stories. Yes, some of it has been proved, such as the existence of Jesus, but that doesn't prove that... (more »)
big zach 33 said...
Oct. 26, 2011 at 10:55 am:
Oct. 26, 2011 at 10:55 am:
i think if ur not a cristian and if u do ask for forgivenness you will go to heaven but u have to forgive ur sins
but by asking for forgiveness than you are acknowledging that there is a God who can take away your sins.
Daphne said...
Oct. 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm:
Oct. 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm:
Unfortunately, humans are sinful by nature. No matter how hard we try, we still do bad things. There is no amount of good that we can do to make up for our sinful nature. The only way to get to heaven is to believe in Jesus Christ, who sacificed himself to redeem us from our sins.
I'm a Catholic and i go to Catholic School and i will definitely be the first to stand up and say anyone who threatens you with going to hell, (whether it be for your actions, or the fact that you're not Christian) is delusional. Any priest that says that is downright delusional, and it brings a bad name to Catholics and Christians because that isn't what our religion teaches at all but there are those few rotten apples that ruin it for everybody. Shame on those who made people think guil... (more »)
Yes! Jesus is all about mercy! And if you ask Him for mercy, even if you have thousands and thousands of sins I promise He will forgive you! No matter what, Jesus wants to give you mercy so much! His Heart BURNS with mercy! I really doubt that Jesus would turn away anyone, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, whatever, away. He is all mercy and He wants to give others mercy. I think that it is when you separate yourself from all that is God or all that is moral that you go to Hell. But up to your dying mo... (more »)
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StarryRoss- I think you're great. Thank you for being open minded and combating the stereotypes of your religion. It is admirable.
shinjite- Your comment kind of ruined it for me. StarryRoss is talking about universal acceptence, and what you are saying is that atheists will be accepted in heaven if they stop being athesists. This defeats the original argument.
Are you kidding me! I love going to church and, at least for me, it is fun. I would suggest that you try and look around for a church that you like. I know I haven't loved every single church I have been to. Also in the Bible is says " You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." ~Jeremiah 29:13 If you go to church one time and just expect a miracle to happen then you are just wasting your time because it takes miracle size faith for miracles to happen. I hope ... (more »)
I think just because you're Christian doesn't mean you're headed to heaven, and just because you aren't christian doesn't mean you aren't headed to heaven. Where we end up eternally should not just be based upon our beliefs, but our personalitys and how we treat others
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