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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm

Well, I've held doors open for men before. But there's just something particularly nice about a man holding a door open for a woman, not just because he got there first, but because she's a woman. You know what I mean? Or letting ladies go first, like when my dad and/or brothers step back in the Communion line to let my mom and and sisters and I through.

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Funne replied...
Feb. 19, 2017 at 8:43 pm

But by describing holding the door open for women as being nice because it shows that men have to protect women, are you basically saying that it is better for women not to protect men? Like, if a man and a woman are in a life threatening situation together and the woman is much more capable of protecting the man while the man would only get in the way if he tried protecting her, than who should protect who?

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stuntddude replied...
Feb. 19, 2017 at 10:50 pm

"You know what I mean?"
 
No, not really. What is it that makes it better to hold open a door for a woman than for a man?

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 20, 2017 at 3:45 pm

Of course a woman should protect a man in a situation like that. It's just in general, man takes a protector/provider role towards women, and any little gesture reflecting that role is sweet. Call it my sense of romance and chivalry and all things medieval epic, if you guys like. :)
 
Y'know, a much better and more concrete example of how women should be treated differently than men is the draft. :P I don't know why I didn't think of that in the first place.

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Feb. 20, 2017 at 7:35 pm

So despite women being able to serve (and having served for years now), they shouldn't be subject to registration for the draft just as men are? That doesn't sound equal at all.
 
For me, equality requires sameness in treatment and other factors- not necessarily fairness.

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 21, 2017 at 5:12 pm

If "equal" means women and men are both going to be treated exactly the same way inspite of their bodily, emotional, and mental differences, then I don't want any part of it.

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Feb. 21, 2017 at 6:22 pm

1. Bodily needs are accounted for by the military.
2. Anyone who is not fit to serve, regardless of whether it's bodily, emotionally, or mentally, would not be put in active service (or probably just the military as a whole) if for whatever reason it were to happen again.
3. In the case of a draft, then it would be both equal and fair to draft both women and men or neither at all.

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm

If you draft both women and men, there's a good chance you're going to have families where both parents have to go to war, isn't there?

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Feb. 22, 2017 at 4:33 pm

We don't draft. But if we were to start it back up, then there are official records to show that you're married. There's also the fact that the median age of when parents have a first child is rising, and with a draft, the younger people would be in the first wave. Draft was for men age 19-26. The median age for a first child is 25, which is pushing that boundary.
 
Also, is there a reason why men couldn't stay at home?

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 23, 2017 at 2:13 pm

True enough.
 
So we're going to send the women to war and keep the men at home to raise the children? :) What are we, Amazons? :)
 
Sorry, I don't mean to be sassy. Let's just say I have old-fashioned and traditional ideas about women's role in society.

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Feb. 23, 2017 at 8:14 pm

So we're going to send the women to war and keep the men at home to raise the children?
Yeah, pretty much. Both men and women serving and being drafted is equal- both are treated the same under the law. I would also argue that it's fair. 

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Feb. 26, 2017 at 9:20 am

I know someone in the military. She says that they try to keep a husband and wife together if they are both military, and try not to deploy them both if there are children. So one of them would always be home if they needed.

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 26, 2017 at 10:22 am

Well, that's good. :) I'm sure the military is careful about things like that, I just...just don't agree with sending women into combat. I don't think that's our role.

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Feb. 26, 2017 at 3:02 pm

The military as a whole, or just combat positions? While I think you should be allowed to serve in whichever way you want as long as you qualify, I can understand- even if I don't agree with- people who are against combat roles for women. So is it just combat you're against, or military as a whole?

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stuntddude replied...
Feb. 26, 2017 at 7:58 pm

I'm curious, what leads you to say that women should not be sent into combat? And are you opposed only to drafting women into combat (or the military in general), or are you also opposed to allowing them to go into combat of their own volition, assuming they meet the physical and psychological health requirements?

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Feb. 27, 2017 at 5:08 pm

I'm only opposed to women in combat, not women in the military. 
 
I'm undecided on whether I'm opposed to sending women into combat at all or only to drafting women. 

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IamRogue replied...
Mar. 13, 2017 at 11:57 am

To be equal is to be treated the same as anyother person,to be treated with respect and acknowledged as a human being despite ethinticity or Gender Prefrences that is equality

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IamRogue replied...
Mar. 13, 2017 at 11:59 am

Women have roles like anyother person whether it is her choice to do combat it is her choice,women are about as powerful as anyone else..

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