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angel_of_silence replied...
Apr. 1, 2014 at 1:50 pm

I agree with love. At one point I did stop believing in God, but I found it hard not to believe in something. Something had to have made us and our planet. How could humans and animals be so intelligent if there wasn't a creator. Oh yea, I am a Christian, I just stopped believing for a little while in my life.

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stuntddude replied...
Apr. 1, 2014 at 6:05 pm

Whoever said atheists don't believe in anything? That's about the silliest thing I've ever heard. The only necessary difference between you and an atheist, or you and someone of another religion, is that they don't believe in your particular god - and if that's really the only thing you "believe in," whether that's "believing" literally or simply putting your trust in something, then I geniunely pity your existence.
 
As for how things came to be how they are, you don't need creation myths for that. There is a lot to know, scientifically or otherwise, about the history of life, humanity, and the universe, if you're willing and curious enough to look for it. I think if you genuinely want to know the answer to your question - "How could humans and animals be so intelligent if there wasn't a creator?" - then you'll go looking for the answers. I can tell you from experience, it's much more fun than just resigning yourself to believe that this all must have been just poofed into existence by a magical being, only because you can't be bothered to search for better answers for yourself.

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angel_of_silence replied...
Apr. 1, 2014 at 8:17 pm

Yea I get what your saying, thanks :)

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Love_Is_Love replied...
Apr. 2, 2014 at 12:49 pm

Gah! It didn't post. That's why I hate this site. Basically I said we all have our own opinions. I think science only goes so far and then faith comes into play. But no sense in arguing because we all have our own beliefs. And I respect yours.

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stuntddude replied...
Apr. 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm

I think that just because we don't know something yet doesn't mean we should insert religion into that gap in knowledge. I think it's more healthy and helpful just to admit that we don't know, and try to work on figuring it out! There's a relevant comic which I love to bits:
 
kiriakakis .n et/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 3, 2014 at 6:22 pm

Interesting comic..
 
I myself am a strong believer in the Bible(as you know stunt..) but the only problem I see with your statement that we shouldn't throw religion in the gap is quite bias. And of course I'll give you a bias answer back:p We believe we do know is the thing, that we do have the answer, but we don't stop asking questions! We just have certain ones answered science doesn't, like how we came to be. Just a few weeks ago in the news they where talking about how they found our ancestor(can't remember what they said it was) so is it no longer lucy? They really don't have a firm grip on the matter. We believe we where created, that's how we answer the question. Now there's other things that we don't know the answer to that science claims they do. So you know it's an ongoing battle. I'll admit sometimes I'll be in science class and think, wow that is some good evidence. And I'll doubt my beliefs a little bit, but then you look at the opposing argument, idk, Science and religion can both be a mess:p

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Love_Is_Love replied...
Apr. 4, 2014 at 9:50 am

In my opinion none of us today can really know what the bible is saying. Does no one realize how many times that thing has been translated? I did much research over it in the past couple days and there are some words that are translated differently in different versions and in the same. It's all very confusing and contridicting to me so I just believe there is a higher power whom I name God. But yeah.

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 4, 2014 at 12:40 pm

^that's a different debate. Yes, many translations but they all translate it from the maseredic(sp) text for the OT. and the dead sea scrolls of Isaiah did match with the maseredic. The maseredic is the oldest they can find besides the dead sea scrolls. Yes there are many reasons but if you actually start doing word studies you can figure it out by context. No, we don't totally know what it says, but we strive to figure it out, or at least I do.

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 4, 2014 at 12:40 pm

*translations, not reasons

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stuntddude replied...
Apr. 5, 2014 at 12:23 am

"Just a few weeks ago in the news they where talking about how they found our ancestor(can't remember what they said it was) so is it no longer lucy?"
 
Silly guy, Lucy has nothing to do with the first human or the first humans or any particular line of ancestry. She's just one of the most complete fossils we've found of pre-sapiens species (from which humans did indeed descend). And I can't say I've heard the particular news story you're talking about, but it's likely you're misinterpreting again and it's just another exciting fossil find - there is no one "our ancestor," and no scientist would put that in an article (although an author with poor journalistic integrity or a poor grasp on science might).
 
So, no offense, but... it's not that scientists don't have a firm grip on the matter, it's that you don't. You do rather consistently show a lack of understanding of science and scientific knowledge, in general. Just saying :/
 
Also, I find it interesting that you claim "They [scientists] really don't have a firm grip on the matter" in reference to changing ideas about human history, but then in the very next post, you say "No, we don't totally know what it says, but we strive to figure it out, or at least I do." Which is interesting to me because that's the exact scientific attitude I'm trying to explain. We know we don't have all the answers. Nobody does. But we strive to figure it out anyways, because we think that's inherently worthwhile. Also because it seems like you're admitting yourself to the very thing you were criticizing about science, when in my opinion, anywhere it's applied tends to become a strong point.

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AndreaRenee__ replied...
Jan. 19 at 10:56 am

I deeply respect every religion. And I really don't know much outside of Christianity (I am a Christian). But I'd like to trade questions from both sides

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