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WordAddict posted this thread...
Dec. 13, 2016 at 7:48 pm

So I've been doing heaps of research on libertarian socialism, socialism, communism/Marxism, capitalism, etc...and I'm getting nowhere. What I mean, is that it is so hard to find true, or accurate, information on the reasoning behind political philosophies such as socialism and communism. Reading Karl Marx has gotten me even more confused—here, he says that "true" socialism is worker's self-managment of the means of production, not government management, while everyone I ask tells me otherwise. Countries who have deemed themselves "communist" never were truly communist, as far as I'm concerned. They were flat-out fascist. But, then again, if I bring that up to someone, they'll point to the media or some random internet article and say that Russia was communist, not plain fascist. Still, I know for certain that the communism in Russia was not pure Marxist communism—so, if we're to get politically technical here, what exactly is it? Is it safer to refer to oneself as a "democratic socialist" in present day (does that make any sense at all)? Because according to my history teacher and others, Marxist socialism/communism is not an actual "thing" in today's world. 
Sorry if I sound very ignorant. It's simply been too irritating to ask people about it without the subject getting all touchy, so I thought I'd bring the on discussion here. Thanks in advance. 

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Dec. 13, 2016 at 8:10 pm

Yeeah, according to my history/gov't teacher, communism in its "true form" as dreamed up by Karl Marx can't really exist. Not on a big nationwide scale, at any rate. It's just....not practical. Basically the idea is having no government, right? Everyone shares everything in common and doesn't have anything of their own? That kind of arrangement might work on a small scale, like in a convent or monastery where everyone gives their property rights up out of religious fervor. (It's always kinda humorous to refer to Catholic relgious communities as operating under "communism," as the Catholic Church has condemned communism. Tangent.) But as an economy system, it doesn't work. As you said, it always corrupts into fascism or something similar. 

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thebookwrmgirl replied...
Jan. 18, 2017 at 11:45 pm

Actually, Catholic religious communities are formed with religious leader/s in the community (everything isn't as uniform as would be in a communist society) and the resources of the community is often shared with those in need. Thus, it can't be said to be truly Communist. ;)

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Lucy-Agnes replied...
Jan. 19, 2017 at 9:57 am

That's very true. :) Thanks for pointing that out.

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thebookwrmgirl replied...
Jan. 19, 2017 at 6:25 pm

You're welcome :)

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