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warriorwritergirl77This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. posted this thread...
Nov. 19, 2016 at 7:59 am

Okay so, while peer revising a student of mine's story in Short Fiction, I kind of lost it with how many times her character said "Jesus F--king Christ!". It appalled me that the same name I shout in praise is right next to the word "F--K"! But we are in a world/culture where many non-Christians use Jesus' name in such a profane way! No one ever curses with the words "Allah" or "Buddha" etc. And if you don't believe in Him, don't use His name! It makes me really mad. God is so powerful, so great, so magnificent yet His name and His son's name are used in such degrading ways.
Why???
And, if you do this yourself, please stop.

“You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name” (Exodus 20:7).

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WordAddict replied...
Nov. 19, 2016 at 10:29 am

"And if you don't believe in Him, don't use His name!"
 
Unfortunately, I don't think many non-believers think this through when they say it. Growing up as an atheist in a pretty atheist community, it was just normal to hear adults swearing His name on a daily basis. So when I heard adults doing it, I thought it must be okay to do the same!
 
From the time we are young, we hear people use His name in these ways, and we think it's okayfor us to do the same. People don't think before they speak. They hear these phrases from other people, from television especially, and even from written stories (like you've said). And since everyone else is using it, why not use it themselves?
 
The farthest I ever go with swearing is "Oh Lord," and even then I try to check my language. Though I have to say, joining this site has really taught me a lot about different religions (especially Christian ones) from all the discussions on the Forums, and I've gotten more careful when it comes to the language I use. I'm sure that if non-believers gained a little more perspective on Christianity, then they would be more careful about their language as well. 

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stuntddude replied...
Nov. 20, 2016 at 1:13 am

Because it doesn't matter and you should probably stop crying about completely harmless idioms?

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CNBono17 replied...
Nov. 20, 2016 at 10:34 am

Stunt, I get that you're an athiest and it doesn't matter to you, but it's offensive to a lot people who do believe it. Please show some respect for people who are religious even if that's your opinion.

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Nov. 20, 2016 at 6:26 pm

It's so ingrained in society that I doubt people even think of a substitute... sure, there's "Oh my gosh", but that's often associated with young children and doesn't seem to fit into adult (or even teenage) conversation. 
 
I can explain swearing for you, though. Back in the past, people used "God d**n" to indicate that they want God to curse something, whether it's a person or a situation. To them, it was likely more of a prayer than swearing, maybe similar to "God, please help me with this problem." Back then, d**n was probably a common verb (like in Biblical reference- "you will be condemned" type thing). There's the origin of "God d**n". Using "Jesus Christ" as a epithet probably has similar origins, like "Please Jesus, help me out", but language changed and evolved into what it is now, and the F-word was added as emphasis. So at this point, it's kind of part of society, so much so that even if you don't believe in God or believe in different gods/a different god, you still use "Oh my God", "Jesus Christ", or "Oh Lord". And part of why no one curses with Allah or Buddha (in America, at least) is because most of America is Christian and because saying "Oh my Buddha" will get you some strange looks. Additionally, Allah is simply "God" in another language.
 
And it's not just non-believers. It's Christians too. Actually, I'd say that pretty much everyone I know above the age of 12 (believer or not) uses "Oh my God", whether in texting or in real conversation. So I agree with both you and Stunt. I can see why it offends someone, and if it does, I avoid saying it in front of them. But at the same time, these people aren't trying to disrespect God (or you, for that matter). So while you might not like that other people say it, I wouldn't expect it to change. It's too commonplace and very few people seem to be offended by it. So it's your right to advocate for change, common courtesy for me to not say it around you, and everyone else's right to say it if they want.

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stuntddude replied...
Nov. 21, 2016 at 12:17 am

CNB, I don't care if you're offended. It doesn't make a practical difference. As a human - heck, even as a Christian - you have more pressing things to worry about than trying to police common idioms.

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Nov. 21, 2016 at 12:42 am

Oooooookay. I suddenly regret posting this thread.
 
@WordAddict
Thanks for your perspective. I get that so many people do it. I'm glad you have become more careful with your language. It used to be during school if some said it and I mentioned that it was offensive, they would stop. I mean, we can be super careful not to offend with everything else we say for every other social issue but when it comes to religion, no cares about you. Which leads me to....
 
@Stuntdude
Dude. First of all, I'm not crying. Second, yes there are "more pressing things" to spend my time worrying about. But you are not a part of my life so you dont know or see how I divide my "worry time", I just wanted to spark up a topic that was on my mind.
 
When you are a Christian and have a strong intimate spiritual relationship with the creator of the world (who could pluck you, my friend, off the face of the earth in an instant) and your life is changed to where a holy fire can rush through your body when you call upon the name "Jesus Christ" with all your heart, when that name "Jesus Christ", the same name that I have seen cast demons out with my own eyes, when that name is used idly, casually, like some low level common phrase, one cannot help but feel some offense. There is so much power in that name, people better be more careful. And I don't care if I sound like some crazy Jesus freak to you, I've been called that plenty of times and I'm proud of it, but I do want to let you know that I am PRAYING FOR YOU. Because whether you believe it or not GOD LOVES YOU.
*mic drop*
 
*pick mic back up*
@wolvesandwilderness
Thank you for the cool little history lesson. But I do wanna try saying "Oh my Buddha" lol just joking. I'm not going to lie, I've said "Oh my God" before, though not without me giving a quick apology, I just wish that people COULD be more respectful. If we live in a world, where we walk on eggshells talking about gender or race, then what is wrong with me asking for some religious respect? Just saying.
 
@CNBono17
God bless you girl.

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CNBono17 replied...
Nov. 21, 2016 at 12:51 am

@warrior 
thanks, buddy :) 
 
@stunt
you have more pressing things to worry about than trying to police common idioms.
 
There, at least, you're right. But it's not about common idioms, it's about respect, as warrior said. As a Christian, there are an insane amount of bigger issues, however, this one came up, and you answered in an incredibly disrespectful way. Is it too much to ask to be given respect as a Christian in this day and age? 
 
Also praying for you. God bless.

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JubilexThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Nov. 21, 2016 at 7:42 am

I'm with CNBono here.
 
When I ask for someone to adjust some language because I find it offensive, I hope the people I speak to will be respectful enough to make an attempt to understand why I'm asking, and then decide that doing something which they are aware will offend me is not a cool thing to do.
 
I'm pretty liberal and I know plenty of conservatives have differing opinions to me as to what they find offensive. But I'd hope that they would be respectful enough to at least make an effort to comply in my presence. And not invalidate my feelings by calling me "whiny" or saying that I'm overreacting.

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Lucy-AgnesThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Nov. 21, 2016 at 10:03 pm

I agree with you, warriorwritergirl. It's sad to see how little respect is left in this world for God's Most Holy Name. 
 
I just wanted to share this prayer -- thought you might appreciate it. :) It's a prayer Catholics say in reparation for all the sins of blasphemy committed against God and the sacred things close to God. It's a very beautiful way to respond to all the disrespect Jesus' name is subject to in this culture. I believe some saint said of God, "One act of love pleases Him more than a thousand sins displease Him."
 
Blessed be God. Blessed be His Holy Name.

Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true Man.

Blessed be the Name of Jesus.

Blessed be His Most Sacred Heart.

Blessed be His Most Precious Blood.

Blessed be Jesus

in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar.

Blessed be the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete.

Blessed be the great Mother of Christ, Mary most Holy.

Blessed be her Holy and Immaculate Conception.

Blessed be her Glorious Assumption.

Blessed be the Name of Mary, Virgin and Mother.

Blessed be St. Joseph, her most chaste spouse.

Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints.

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stuntddude replied...
Nov. 27, 2016 at 8:11 am

"a strong intimate spiritual relationship with the creator of the world (who could pluck you, my friend, off the face of the earth in an instant)"
 
Ooooh boy, I'm quaking in my boots.
 
"I do want to let you know that I am PRAYING FOR YOU."
 
I'd make a quip about this, but you've already made your stance on letting people tell you not to waste your time quite clear.
 
"If we live in a world, where we walk on eggshells talking about gender or race"
 
We don't.

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CNBono17 replied...
Nov. 27, 2016 at 11:07 am

We don't.
 
Yes, we do. When people protest Black Friday by calling it racist (which it's not, it's referring to the economic state of being "in the black," or making money) that's a bit too much. 
 
I'd make a quip about this, but you've already made your stance on letting people tell you not to waste your time quite clear.
 
Except you're not doing that. You're denouncing our faith. Look, I'm not going to argue with you about Christianity, because you've already made it abundantly clear what you think of it and people who believe in it, but know this: this was a choice made through time, effort, experience, and careful consideration of fact and logic. I, for one, would not have made it if it were a waste of time. 

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Nov. 27, 2016 at 12:05 pm

Sometimes people do take things too far- Black Friday is not racist, and just because there's a longer line for the women's bathroom than the men's doesn't make bathrooms se.xist. We now have safe spaces in college and therapy pets for people stressed out by this election (but please don't talk about the election on this thread). So it seems like it's mostly America that has a hypersensitivity issue, but yeah. Sometimes you really have to watch what you say, even if most people don't find it offensive.
 
And look, you can disagree with anyone you want. You can disagree with Christians, Muslims, athiests, g.ay people, straight people, people who support a certain idea or oppose it, whatever. It's your right to disagree. But by saying that Christians are wasting their time, you're saying that about 30% of humans are wasting their time. You don't have to believe. I don't have to, and nobody has to believe. But at least accept and welcome the idea that some people do. If it helps them in life and helps them strive to be good people, then there's no harm done. They can "waste their time" every Sunday morning and Wednesday night- what's it matter? Unless they are harming other people with it, they're free to do it. It's their life, and calling a Christian out on being a Christian is like constantly bashing you for all of your opinions and telling you that supporting the things you care about is a waste of time.
 
So yeah, I wouldn't expect "Oh my God" to go away any time soon. It doesn't bother me much at all. But for the people it does bother, you don't have to agree. Just try to respect it, even if it sounds utterly ridiculous to you.

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Nov. 27, 2016 at 7:05 pm

Still regret posting this thread...
 
@Lucy-Agnes
Really love that prayer, felt great saying it.
 
@stuntdude
At this point, I ask nothing more from you than just some simple R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
Believe whatever you want just show some respect to other ppl beliefs. If you could just do that little thing, there could be a bit more harmony on these religion-related threads.
 
@CNBono17
I've totally learned over time that it makes no sense to argue. In my studying about God, I learned that He doesn't need lawyers, He doesn't need His children to defend Him when He is badmouthed. It's a bad habit of mine. But I learned that my defending Him is like saying He needs my help when as a all-powerful, mighty holy God, He doesn't. So at this point, my job is more to witness and talk about His goodness and share testimonies rather than defend His name against persecutors and haters. So hard for me to do sometimes...
 
@wolvesandwilderness
Thanks. Yeah I don't expect the phrases to go away but respect is really all I guess I was asking for. Well said.

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CNBono17 replied...
Nov. 27, 2016 at 8:01 pm

So true...there's INTJ problems for you ;)

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stuntddude replied...
Nov. 28, 2016 at 4:40 pm

"When people protest Black Friday by calling it racist, that's a bit too much."
 
Someone doing or saying a stupid thing does not determine how the entire country acts. If the best evidence you provide is "look, this person over here got offended at something that shouldn't have!", then you really have no case at all.
 
"Except you're not doing that. You're denouncing our faith."
 
I've denounced Christianity in other threads, just not in this one.
 
"So it seems like it's mostly America that has a hypersensitivity issue"
 
Yeah, I'd say this thread is a pretty good showcase.
 
"But by saying that Christians are wasting their time, you're saying that about 30% of humans are wasting their time."
 
Most Christians don't try to police the usage of harmless idioms.
 
In any case, the number of people who believe something has no bearing on whether or not it is true. You vastly underestimate how pessimistic my outlook on humanity is if you think I would hesitate to criticize something just because it's widespread.
 
"At this point, I ask nothing more from you than just some simple R-E-S-P-E-C-T."
 
That's too much. I don't think I can handle it.

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Nov. 28, 2016 at 5:03 pm

Most Christians don't try to police the usage of harmless idioms.
Given that I'm one of those Christians who doesn't "police" it- which I've stated on this thread- I'm well aware of that fact. But what you said was this: "I'd make a quip about this, but you've already made your stance on letting people tell you not to waste your time quite clear." That was in response to this: "I do want to let you know that I am PRAYING FOR YOU." So by all means, correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're saying that praying (or maybe just Christianity in general) is a waste of time. So at this point, it isn't necessarily about the idiom.
 
That's too much. I don't think I can handle it.
This, at least, I can agree with. 

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Nov. 28, 2016 at 5:41 pm

@stuntdude
Okay. Since respect is too much to ask for, I now just simply ask for you to please not talk to me EVER AGAIN or comment on anything I might post in the future relating to my beliefs. Everyone deserves respect no matter who they are or what they believe in. I have been kind enough to respect you and was asking for some respect as a human being in return. But since you cannot handle that, go troll over someone else's life. Thank you. Goodbye.

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Nov. 28, 2016 at 5:54 pm

To everyone else: I understand that common idioms cannot be policed. I don't care if someone says "Oh my God". People won't stop saying it, I'm not going to stop anyone. I wanted more to bring up the topic of respecting religions with your language if you ever find yourself around Christians or someone of any religion. I more wanted to bring up the topic of respect more than banning the usage of "OMG" cause that is just stupid and impossible and not what I mean. Simple as that.
 
I brought this topic up to my class and they were respectful enough to not use the name Jesus and the word "F--k" together in any more stories. The person apologized and was okay with how I felt. I am happy that they respected my words.
 
Every human being deserves respect. That's it. Period. Peace.

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WordAddict replied...
Nov. 28, 2016 at 7:28 pm

To be fair, I don't think that Stuntddude is being a troll. From what I can tell, he's being inattentive to the significance a name like 'God' has on you (or others). I get it. To us, these are just words. Words are words. They won't kill you.
 
Anyway, Stunt, you come off pretty bluntly when you express your opinions on these debates. I think it's a good thing. But sarcastic responses like, "That's too much. I don't think I can handle it," are childish. 
 
If you don't think that this topic of discussion is worth mulling over, then feel free to create your own thread concerning a more pressing topic up for debate.

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