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warriorwritergirl77This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. posted this thread...
Nov. 9, 2016 at 6:30 am

Donald Trump is my president.

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Nov. 9, 2016 at 6:34 am

My school was watching this election together through the night till 2am. We were crying and hugging each other because we all knew that America had failed us. My mom sent me a text right before results started that "If Trump is elected president, we are either on the bus to the border or the plane to Africa." I have a friend in the Middle East who's dream was to come to America, now I'm like - good luck! Trump doesn't want anybody from your country coming here! Great job America! I don't know what to think right now. I am so disappointed in my country. 4 years. 4 years....

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WordAddict replied...
Nov. 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm

I feel so much pain for your friend right now. This whole situation is messed up. When I got to school today, there were literally people just crying in the hallways. Every class was a somber rant from the teachers and students about how terrible this is.
 
What I find infuriating is that the majority of Americans wanted Hillary Clinton for president, but it was the electoral college that precipitated this "Trump 2016" into a complete reality. We missed a chance to make a beautiful statement about who we are as a country, with Hillary possibly becoming the U.S.'s first woman president. We won't get another chance like this for the next fifty years.

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I,isnt,PinkieThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Nov. 9, 2016 at 5:40 pm

There is a small amount of hope that in two years, we'll be able to elect him out of the white house. But those two years... I'll be in Canada. Right now I'm wondering why my family and I arent packing everything up right now and looking for a house to rent up north. 
 
My mom didn't let me go to school today either. She wants me to prepare myself for the bull that everyone will say (we're in a very trump friendly state). Honestly, i need a few weeks to prepare myself. A month or two would be nice.

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Nov. 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm

I'm not here to tell you that everything will be perfect during Trump's presidency, but I don't think everything will be as bad as people fear. I'm not defending him either- I cannot condone the things he has said and potentially the things he has done.
 
That said, here's why it might not be as bad as people say: he's very likely to be a 4 year president and not an 8 year president, he is limited by Congress (and not even all of the Republicans are fond of him), he's surrounding himself with reasonably level-headed people (regardless of whether or not you agree with their views, at least they're calm), and he's built a successful business empire- whether you disagree with him or not, America will not fall down around your ears.
 
Again, I'm not saying there won't be problems. There have already been reports of Trump supporters setting a g.ay person's car on fire and painting 'Trump' on it. But on the flip side, a man was attacked by a mob just because he voted for Trump. It's not pretty. I expect better from Americans- you can't just attack people for voting differently. And I'm not saying that I'm qualified to talk about all the problems minorities will face, because to put it simply, I'm not. But g.ay marriage will not be repealed and we're not going to deport every Hispanic and Muslim person that we see. Just give it a month or so to calm down.

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WordAddict replied...
Nov. 10, 2016 at 5:03 pm

"America will not fall down around your ears."
 
That, and everything else you said was true. I admit that. But what I will never come to understand is how some people (meaning, half the U.S. population) could possibly express support for this grotesque man, despite the reality that, no, America won't fall apart. While that is true, it is also certain that this is a huge step backward for not only our country, but the world.
 
I cannot tell you how it feels to hear that kids in my brother's middle school were getting up on tables and chanting, "Build a wall!" during their lunches. It was nerve-wracking to hear about college students doing things very similar, and worse, over the news. I know a mother, who came here as an illegal (Hispanic) immigrant, of two children. She is a wonderful, dedicated mother and a hard-worker. It was painful to see her cry once I asked her about her thoughts on this election. People should NOT have to be crying over a presidential election. People should NOT have to be afraid to walk down the street, or go to school, in fear of being harassed because of an election.
 
Trump has given the country permission to blatantly act like racist bullies. Imagine what the message will do to younger people, like the kids in my brother's school, who are too guillible to understand the reality of this situation. Trump's victory will blur the lines between what is morally right and what is morally wrong. I know, you could talk about the governmental technicalities all you wish, but sometimes, it's enough to get down to basic morality. Seeing people for people, not followers of a political party. 
 
I don't know what else to say at this point. But you are right about all that you have said, Wolves. Thank you for the reassurance that the country won't fall apart. Some other people's lives might get battered and torn apart in the process, but at least you and I will be fine—for the most part. Right?

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Nov. 11, 2016 at 10:46 am

We do need to see people as people. That includes Trump, that includes Trump supporters. I'm not saying it's okay to be racist, se.xist, discriminatory- I'm not saying that at all. But you're right. People shouldn't have to fear being harassed. And both sides of this election felt harrassed. I can tell you as someone who knows people who voted for Trump that they felt unsafe when it came to sharing their opinions, because they would instantly be called a bigot.
Trump's victory has brought out bad things in both sides- mobs attacking Trump supporters, his supporters going after Hispanics and g.ay people. Both sides need to see the other side as a group of people. A group of people who are anxious, who feel angry and upset. Clinton's side is worried that we're taking a step backward, that hate crimes will rise. Trump's side is worried about everyone calling them bigots, possibly attacking them or generally treating them poorly. I get it. Everyone is nervous right now.
Like I said, I'm not qualified to talk about anyone's life but mine. I will be fine, yes. I understand that a lot of people have reasons to be a lot more concerned than me. But I don't think this election is a reason to hate America. America is first and foremost about the people. People who all have different opinions, views, and lifestyles. 
I won't tell you that everything will be perfect. But give it time. 

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Nov. 11, 2016 at 9:47 pm

Hi. I posted this thread in a very emotional state, amid some tears but after a couple days full of talks, hugs, and puppy videos, my mind is bit more clear. I want to correct myself and say that I DO NOT HATE AMERICA. America is a wonderful country with a rich history of great people overcoming obstacles, discrimination, injustice, inequality in so many ways. I don't hate my country even if I do still feel betrayed in many ways. I agree with all you guys have said. I must admit,  I am a bit more nervous walking down the street, outside my campus. In the past couple days, students of my college have been harassed by Trump supporters and I no longer feel secure in a place I felt so safe. I don't fear Trump's presidency as much, though I do fear Pence and what he wishes to do. But it is 4 years, not a decade and Trump is a president not a dictator.
 
I also don't hate Trump supporters. While I do feel that their motives and reasoning behind their votes were not well educated or thoughtful to other cultures, I won't be quick to label them as southern white bigots like many have been. My feelings still seem all over the place. One of my good friends is the only one in her family that voted for Clinton and now she is receiving backlash and harsh comments from those she loves and strangers. I just don't like how Trumps victory has given people the sense that racism, discrimination, and sexism is okay. I don't think Trump is a monster, I don't think he wanted to be elected so people had freedom to do more hate crimes. I don't think he wants this.
 
I feel a bit immobile right now. However, after some pressure from my peers, I am going to start getting involved. The first step is protests, one next week. I feel nervous for my safety but I remember how many strong amazing African Americans put their lives on the line for future generations like me. The protest isn't necessarily against Trump but focusing more on police brutality and racism.
 
God please restore order to this country.

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WordAddict replied...
Nov. 12, 2016 at 5:53 pm

@wolves,
I apologize if it sounded like I was antagonizing your words. Once again, I really do agree with all that you have been saying - I understand that you are not in support of racism, etc. 
 
Wow. I just realize that this has really been an emotionally-driven election for a lot of us (but not all, of course). Honestly, I'm getting sick of hearing about people harming each other over this mess, and I've come to the conclusion that it isn't exactly Trump's fault. It was the people who supported him until the end, and there's not much we can do about that. It's difficult to change people's views, but I wish there was a way for all of us to just calm down
 
If Trump ends up doing a wonderful job, or even a decent job for this country, then great. While we may not all agree with his ideals, I don't think that everyone should just pack their bags for Canada. Like you said, only time will bring out the worst, or the best of him. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
@warrior,
 
"I don't think he wanted to be elected so people had freedom to do more hate crimes. I don't think he wants this."
 
This is a good point. I had a similar thought to this the other day. Something like, "Trump didn't expect to actually get elected. He's probably scared out of his mind right now." 
 
It wouldn't be a bad idea for Trump address these problems, though. If he could make some kind of speech or apology for the violence, perhaps things will cool down a bit. 

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RightWingExtremist replied...
Nov. 13, 2016 at 5:42 pm

I'd just like to point that even Senator Sanders has even come out and said most Trump supporters aren't racists, misogynists, etc and came out this morning and expanded on that by saying that Trump win because he harmonized with voters who felt ignored and betrayed by elites.

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Nov. 13, 2016 at 9:43 pm

So here is something funny for the Christians out there or anyone who knows the biblical story of Saul who was a horrible Christian-persecutor who Jesus appeared and was renamed Paul - becoming one of the greatest apostles ever.
 
So my pastor was preaching this Sunday and made this comment about how we should have hope towards this presidency. He said, God can change a person's heart, just like he changed Saul to Paul. You never know, he said, God can change Donald to Ronald (like Ronald Reagan)! I found this really funny, and really true. We don't know. Donald Trump could have a change of heart. Hopefully...

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stuntddude replied...
Nov. 14, 2016 at 4:45 am

Ronald Reagan wasn't exactly a great president (or a great guy) either. But I can appreciate how quickly he seems to be softening his policy positions (and his demeanor). It's not good by any stretch, but it's better than I expected.

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Nov. 14, 2016 at 9:12 am

Ronald Reagan was a great president btw, but I don't want to start a debate. Sorry you did not get the humor...

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Lucy-AgnesThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Nov. 14, 2016 at 5:58 pm

Haha, that's funny, warriorwritergirl77! :) 
 
Regarding Trump, chin up, everyone. He definitely wans't my first choice for president - although, if you've seen my comments on other threads, you probably know I was 100% against Clinton. :) But really, America's got through tons of crises worse than this (if it's even a crisis), and she'll get through this one, too. Who knows? Donald Trump might be exactly what America need. As Hillary Clinton herself said, we need to give him the chance to lead.

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IamRogueThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 14 at 11:27 am

Don't hate America hate the people who were foolish enough to vote for either of them..

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Mar. 14 at 4:10 pm

Don't hate the people, either... granted, a lot of people put Trump and Clinton up as the two candidates because their promises sounded nice, but that's every election and will likely continue for the far future. Since they were the candidates, at least the major ones, some people voted for them out of genuine desire to see them get to the White House, whereas others were voting for that candidate because they didn't want the other side, or because they were going to vote third party but knew that the third party candidate wouldn't have won. It's not foolishness at all, just opinions and preferences.

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ThrillQueen126This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 15 at 7:49 pm

Don't hate America, and don't hate the people. Hate the circumstances and the situation.

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stuntddude replied...
Mar. 15 at 10:13 pm

Say what you will, I think there's more than enough reason to hate both.

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3e11A replied...
Nov. 1 at 12:45 pm

Y'all do know that if Hillary got in. The Russian president Putin was going to declare war so y'all need to think about that before dissing Trump fyi.

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