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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. posted this thread...
Aug. 18, 2012 at 4:07 pm

First off, unless you want spoilers, anyone who is not Carson, leave! Even if you do want spoilers, please leave anyway :)

Anyway, Carson, I was thinking that soon-ish Jiyu would run into Kasumi (as in, after he escapes from prison – which will be quite soon – and after he visits one other place first). I'm gonna go ahead and lay out my idea, but if you don't like it, that's fine too.

Basically, after Jiyu busts out and gets his act together (I won't give you any more detail than that for that part ;) ), he's going to go to the wherever the top Fekkara are staying (where are they staying now? Or has the Fekkara tower already been rebuilt and they're back over there?) to kill Ichiro. When he finds out that Ichiro is long gone, however, he's instead go to the next-closest person to him: Kasumi.

(Also, I was thinking that maybe this could happen during the finale – while almost all the other characters are being stormed by the Fekkara. That is, unless you wanted to have Kasumi be one of the Fekkara breaking into the Blue Spirits' place herself, rather than just have her send others to do the deed – maybe you could say she'd been feeling a bit unwell, and decided to stay at her home? Or we could just have this happen at another time, but it might not be before Book Two ends...)

Whether you want her to end up dying or not is up to you – it could easily go either way. But I was thinking that maybe before Jiyu tried to kill her, they would talk (I feel like Kasumi would be the kind of woman to chat with her assassin before he tried to kill, just to bide time :) ).

By now, she would know that Bao is actually the Avatar (unless Leah decides to have that detail out of the letter Amayah gives her. And if so, Jiyu would probably be so certain of Kasumi's death that he'd tell her anyway) and maybe could let slip to him that Bao and Ichiro are actually brothers, which would surely freak Jiyu out. Again, you can choose whether Kasumi accepts the bullet either dies or miraculously lives, or not accept it and try to kill Jiyu instead, or whatever else you might come up with.

So...yah. I think that's it, for now at least. How does this sound? ^_^

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm

I love it! :D
 
I definitely think this should go down in the new Fekkara base (since the Tower hasn't been rebult yet), when most of the soldiers and such are gone to fight. Kasumi wll have no doubt stayed behind (for obvious reasons, without Ichiro gone and no obvious heir to take over if she's killed in battle). And Jiyu, of course, will find it all too easy to reach her... XD
 
I definitely agree this should be with the finale, only in a different setting, of course. As for whether or not she'll die...I think she might, after just learning the information that Nekkara is, indeed, alive and able to take over---I'll explain how she'll know this little bit of information in a post---the Fekkara. But Jiyu and her should definitely clear the air on some stuff: Kasumi defending Ichiro for what he did to Jiyu's family, bringing up the Ichiro/Bao relation, etc.
 
I LOVE the idea, in short. :D

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 18, 2012 at 9:53 pm

Yay! I'm glad you like it ^_^. And yah, I figured that when the Fekkara are storming the Blue Spirits, their base would be a tad bit...empty. Anyway, will the new Fekkara base be near the Tower or what? Actually, I don't even remember where the old one was...was it in Bujio or one of the nearby sectors?

Awesome. Ichiro definitely won't be happy when he finds out his mom was murdered while he was running away [insert evil laugh]. At any rate, it'll be a nice, cheerful way to wrap the book up ;). I didn't really want to have Jiyu to return to Bujio, anyway, because that's where almost everyone is going now and he wouldn't be exactly eager to return to the BaoCrowd after what had just happened haha

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 19, 2012 at 8:54 am

No, I don't think Ichiro will be very happy...then again, with Jiyu's sister actually being alive due to Ichiro sparing her---and now Ichiro's mother dead due to Jiyu---when the two meet, Jiyu might have to accept the fact that they're nearly even. XD Nearly.
 
As for their new base, it's near the Palace---probably a large apartment complex the Fekkara itself bought and rented out while reconstruction is underway. I'd say it's a few blocks from the Palace itself, and probably on the other side of the city from where the Blue Spirits base is...just so Jiyu has a better chance of escaping without running into the Bao Crowd just yet. XD

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 19, 2012 at 12:13 pm

Shhh...don't tell Jiyu that, or her might just shoot you to shut you up XD

Oh gosh, the BaoCrowd is going to be so mad at him for not trying to save them while he was so close. And Jiyu will just be like, "Karma, karma, kaarrrrmaaa!" XD

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 19, 2012 at 12:41 pm

Pfffffttt. Jiyu doesn't scare me...unless he gets very angry. XD
 
Ooh, they will be furious. But that's what makes everything so fun! ^_^
 
I'm curious to see how Jiyu will turn out, at the end of this series. In fact, I'm curious to see how a lot of characters will turn out. o.O We have a long way to go though, I suppose. :P

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 19, 2012 at 1:26 pm

Yah, me too. Most of the characters have gone such a long way already!

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 4, 2013 at 10:35 pm

Okay, bumping this back up so I don't have to create a new thread---this is about Hector.
 
The biggest thing that could hurt him is if something hurts his family. No one knows he has any family left, as he had them hidden in some isolated mountains for safety.
 
I was actually planning to have something happen to them, which would make Hector change his mind and decide to side with Leona & Company... Actually, if you want Delias to somehow take a part in his family's death, feel free to share any ideas.
 
Basically, his family is what he loves most, and a huge reason he started this rebellion was to protect them. If they were to die...his whole outlook on the war would change.

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 5:58 pm

bumpy bump ^_^

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm

Oooh, that sounds cruel for Delias to take part in Hector's family and their deaths...what perfect timing for some character devlopment. >:)
 
I agree that for Hector to change his mind about the war, his main motivation (as you pointed out, his family) needs to be rearranged. At this point, Delias will be doing his best to dishearten those who have received the message, so no doubt he would target Hector's family with the intention of crushing him. However, I think it will have the opposite effect.
 
This could indeed work. I think Delias would show Hector what happened to his family in a dream; it might start out as a simple nightmare, Hector witnessing their deaths, before Delias steps into the dreamscape and proves that what Hector saw was reality. So many possibilities.
 
I'm up for anything. ^_^ Poor, poor Hetor.

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm

*Hector
 
>.<

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 6:32 pm

Yeah, and Hector probably wouldn't believe it and/or think it was "just a dream" until he heard something about a bombing/sickness going on (I dunno how you'd want their deaths to happen) in a random place and rushed over to where he kept his family to see for himself what had happened...
 
I might as well go ahead and describe his family, just so you can at least have it on hand. Surprisingly enough, they've been fairly untouched by the war as well---he still has both his parents, a grandmother, and two younger brothers (one is nine, whose name is Marco, and thirteen years old, whose name is Luis. Luis is also autistic). And even though his father has to get around in a wheelchair (though I guess by now they all would be fancier and motorized), it was because of an illness in his early thirties, not a war wound. They live isolated in the mountains with a few other villagers, but it's not like they live in a cave---granted, it's not a five-star hotel, but they have electricity, running water, and the like.
 
That's pretty much it, that I can think of for now at least (I feel bad, planning a whole family's death :P ). One thing about Hector is that he really isn't scared of anything (perhaps to his downfall, perhaps not)---except for anything to happen to his family. Everything else he just laughs at and/or belittles.
 
I'm sure Delias won't be very happy when he finds out that killing Hector's family will not only make him more determined, but also change his mind about which side he should choose XD

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:16 pm

Mmm...how would you feel about Delias showing a vision of Hector's family, who are somehow all fatally ill? If Hector would have to leave to see it for himself (no doubt thinking they were still alive, since the vision will be of his sick family), Leona would probably go with him, if only for the fact that Delias might still be there (and I think you know her relationship with him). And, y'know, Leona has a hard time letting anyone important out of her sight, unless Hector somehow arranges it for her to stay at his base and still be safe from all of her haters.
 
Of course, Delias won't be lingering in the area, but he would no doubt have left messages in the house; I mean to say, for example, if Hector touches the body of one of his family members, the message Delias would leave behind would play in Hector's mind---perhaps a flash of the pain the member felt before dying, or even Delias's voice giving a warning, etc.
 
And no, Delias will not be happy when he realizes it did exactly what he was trying to avoid...considering doing nothing would have gotten him what he wanted. XD

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:56 pm

Yeah, that'd be fine, with the illness. Or maybe Leona could have already (momentarily, at least) given up and returned to North America? It'd be more dramatic, anyway, and I can imagine Hector being firm about not taking a side for a while. And that sounds good, with the messages deal.
 
Actually---if you did want to send Leona back to North America before Hector changed his mind, I could have Umbra go with her (she the character who can become invisible/intangible at will) as sort of a way to show some semblence of friendship, if it's okay for me to add her (I counted everyone up and if you exclude the younger characters, we're even, gender-wise) ^_^

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 8:32 pm

*le gasp* Yes! I was trying to find a scenerio where Leona fit with this, and that's exactly what I wasn't seeing. Her returning to North America seems logical; I think, with Hector gone now, she might have a conversation with Jo and Snooze, but I might wait until Hector decides to join her for Leona to make the connection as to who they are and give them the message.
 
I would more than love for Umbra to join Leona. I have no problems with you adding her, considering you only have one character at the moment. ^_^

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Feb. 5, 2013 at 11:17 pm

Okay great, I'm glad that works out! As for which direction to go with Jo and Snooze, either way I'm sure will be fine-- it'll probably just depend on what exactly ends up happening. ^_^

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leafyThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:28 pm

Okay so I'm bumping this up again, to add a few things :)
 
First, I'm not sure when exactly you had plans to have Delias step into Hector's dreams---and if you do, then that's awesome, this is just an idea in case you don't---, but I was thinking that maybe they would begin once Hector (with Jo) started moving to make his attack on the Bogota human base in Columbia. I dunno if you remember, but the base he's been in is in Belize, so it'd take a day to travel down, perhaps longer to set everything up. That way there'd be extra craziness in an already-tense time for him :D
 
Also, although I won't be strict in this plan, to keep things as realistic as I can, I'm thinking that he'll capture the Bogota base, when/if he does make the attack. Perhaps sometime around then Delias can actually kill his family---which would make Hector's sudden decision to help Leona and leave his own 'empire' even more surprising.
 
Also, this last bit is the one I'm the most iffy, about whether or not I'll do it, but I've been considering the idea of having Hector attack a nearby Gifted South American base (an official Gifted base, to be clear), right after defeating the Bogota Base (again, that'll be only if he defeats that base in the first place)---because he does have plans that go just farther than just have the Gifted South Americans overpower the humans. He wants control over South America, period, after that, who knows? North America, overseas? :O
 
Whether he wins those or not, those plans will come to a halt, however, when Delias kills his family and Hector decides to join Leona's cause. I just thought I might bring that up with you, since if these scenarios were to happen (especially if Delias's deed happened just after/right around Hector's defeat of a Gifted base), not only might it put Umbra in an awkward situation---since it seems like the various official Gifted armies are tied together pretty closely---, but it almost might make Leona even more distrusful of Hector-- and perhaps even reluctant to take his help, depending on how she takes it.
 
Whew, I hope that wasn't too confusing haha. Thought I might throw those ideas out there ^_^

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leafyThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 7, 2013 at 6:43 pm

buuuuuuuump :)

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CarsonFairclothThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 7, 2013 at 10:34 pm

First of all, I'm perfectly okay with the idea of Delias entering Hector's dreams when he takes Bagota Base. It would definitely add tension and drama, especially, as you mentioned it, when he leaves. Delias will soon be making an appearance at the Arizona Base, which will cause some plot stirring. I think, when he enters Hector's dreams, it will be after he visits with Leona privately and learns of her trip down there, as well as her intentions to contact him about the truth behind the War. He'll view Hector as a threat after this point, and begin his "mental attack", so to speak.
 
As for the idea on the Gifted Base...mmm. It's not a bad idea, as it would definitely add tension between Hector and Leona. The only flaw is that I can't see any way in which Leona would be remotely okay with it, and she would most likely point-blank refuse his decision to help, even though she's desperate for it now. As you can see, that would put a dent in the plan for them to reunite, and after their rough beginning (and with the roleplay reaching its halfway point soon, I think), they need some smooth sailing for the plan of the humans and Gifted uniting to work, otherwise the distrust will be too great to overcome, seeing as how it's a lot harder to go against characters and their personalities than people think.
 
I don't think we'd be able to make them get along like they need to, basically, as they're already on shaky ground. The Bogota Base idea is definitely on, though. The Gifted base...I think it would pit Leona against Hector too much. Then again, Hector could always be planning to do it when he leaves, which would be the day of his victory at Bogota Base. Leona could always overhear him speaking with Umbra once he arrives in Arizona, and that would cause tension, though not quite the disaster than if he'd actually done it. I think, in Leona's mind, that would be crossing a line. What do you think?

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leafyThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 7, 2013 at 10:48 pm

Okay, great! As for the last idea, now that you mention it, there was one thing I hadn't been thinking-- the pace. I'm too used to the AHOE-like pacing, where we have arcs that go on many a moons XD
 
What you said does make sense, in all seriousness. I might have Hector and Umbra discuss a possible Gifted attack to allow a chance for someone to eavesdrop, but it'll just have to depend on how things work out when he finally reunites with Leona. I doubt it, the more I think about it, seeing how the pace for this roleplay is going. Perhaps in another context, but...nothing too major. Nothing that'll force Leona to banish Hector and Umbra for the rest of the roleplay and beyond haha

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