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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 29, 2013 at 11:10 pm

I actually posted that video in the Thread of Interesting Stuff a month or so ago, lolz! You didn't happen to get it from me PB, or did you already have it in your bookmarks, haha.

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Quantum1.0This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 29, 2013 at 11:26 pm

I'm about to go watch the video...and stuntddude don't pay attention to YouTube comments - they're notorious for their uselessness (not to say the video is necessarily a good source, but...)

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packerbacker12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 29, 2013 at 11:34 pm

Dbug: I watches the vid a few yrs ago at my grandparents house, then found it on youtube and reffered to a classmate last year:) it is one of my favorite vids:) sorry if my grammer is bad on my phone... Quantum: thank you!!!:) Katsk: I know what he is asking, and the vid is proof;) Shalom Alechiem! PB:) *

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 29, 2013 at 11:36 pm

YouTube comments? I'm not even going to ask. It's funny, because on all the religious videos, you'll have all these secular people commenting about how messed up the video is, and on all the secular vids you have all these religious people posting canned messages trying to convert the YouTube community.
 
*Shakes head*

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 8:24 am

Those weren't random comments, by the way, it seems I didn't make that clear - that was the description posted by the uploader.

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packerbacker12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 9:32 am

well the uploader actually isn't the maker of teh video, so yea it's their opinion, it was mad by GLC G-d's Learning Channel.
 
Shalom Alechiem!
 
PB:)
 
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Destinee replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 12:55 pm

LOL at the entire above convo XD *

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm

Hey Doctorbug, and Packerbacker, :)  I don't mean to rush you, just thought I'd make sure my question wasn't forgotten lol :P

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 4:35 pm

It's not forgotten, Breece! I've just been at work all day. Get to you in a bit :)

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 7:15 pm

Okay, explaining verse 15...
 
The verse is talking about the norm (normal) way judgements are made. A person get's convicted by the law and pays his own penalty (death). However, now that Jesus has died on the cross, the normal way judgement goes down is done away with, i.e Jesus pays the penalty instead of you. When it says "abolishing the law of commandments" what it means is that what's being nullified is the Judges commands (i.e "you killed this man so you're going to be put to death).
 
What one has to really understand is that the word "Commandment" has a broad deffinition of meaning in Greek and what it means in this context is "Judge's edict". Also the translation for "Law" is totally messed up. The word  is "norm" or "the average way things are done".
 
I'm typing a mile a minute and I can pretty much garuntee this is going to come out as nonesense :P

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 30, 2013 at 7:17 pm

I'll come back later and clear up that totally messed up post if you don't get the jist...which I'm sure is almost impossible.

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JubilexThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 1, 2013 at 2:08 am

PB
 
Thank you for all the information! I don't really know much about any religion apart from the standard Christianity.
 
The use of the word "ritual" was for a broad purpose, rather than because I thought it was the best fit.
 
I know Hannukah isn't a Jewish Christmas, but I'm aware it is a common assumption.
 
Yom Kippur is also a day of forgiveness right? My knowledge of Jewish traditions is pretty limited. All I know is what I've seen from watching a TV show where the main character is Jewish (Being Erica). It's a pretty big event, right?

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packerbacker12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 1, 2013 at 8:33 am

Yes, but no. The Hebrew month of Alul(pronounced a-lool) is the month of forgiveness, Yom Kippur is focused more on cleansing your body. Also it is tradition to go out and do something for the poor that day. Shalom Alechiem! PB:) *

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JubilexThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 2, 2013 at 4:56 am

Okay. Thank you :)

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 3, 2013 at 1:02 pm

Doctorbug:

Sorry, I actually forgot about this thread xD

So are you saying that the verse says that human law is abolished now? So like, the entire idea of a judicial system putting criminals in prison and whatnot was done away when Jesus died?

I don't understand the connection between Jesus's death and the abolishing of literal judges-and-courts-and-all-that-jazz laws.

It feels like your explanation is saying that Jesus paid the penalty for crimes so legal systems can't do anything about it -_-

Also, what evidence do you have to back up that it's your interpretation rather than mine? I'd say the context of the verse seems to implicate my meaning.

For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

It seems like he's talking about the Jews and the Gentiles here, the ones under law and the ones not. And how Jesus's death broke the barrier that separated them, the Old Covenant, or the Old Law.

I would say it very much seems to indicate my interpreted meaning.

Feel free to take your time and stuff, I have AP Classes this year (11th grade) so I know it can get pretty crazy xD

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm

Doctorbug:
 
Sorry, I actually forgot about this thread xD
 
So are you saying that the verse says that human law is abolished now?  So like, the entire idea of a judicial system putting criminals in prison and whatnot was done away when Jesus died?
 
I don't understand the connection between Jesus's death and the abolishing of literal judges-and-courts-and-all-that-jazz laws.
 
It feels like your explanation is saying that Jesus paid the penalty for crimes so legal systems can't do anything about it -_-
 
Also, what evidence do you have to back up that it's your interpretation rather than mine?  I'd say the context of the verse seems to implicate my meaning.
 
 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
 
It seems like he's talking about the J.ews and the Gentiles here, the ones under law and the ones not.  And how Jesus's death broke the barrier that separated them, the Old Covenant, or the Old Law.
 
I would say it very much seems to indicate my interpreted meaning.  
 
Feel free to take your time and stuff, I have AP Classes this year (11th grade) so I know it can get pretty crazy xD

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packerbacker12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 6, 2013 at 2:12 pm

BUMP
 
Shalom Alechiem!
 
PB:)
 
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