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Izuo.This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 12:07 pm

Quantam is right if you actually think about it... 

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Thread officially derailed.

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:47 pm

I think people ab.use religion to serve political agendas.
 
That's about as far as I'd go though.

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 4:26 pm

^Ditto.
 
Des: I actually find a pew more comfortable. My back starts to hurt if I sit for long peroids of time without anything to lean against. Weird.

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 7:30 pm

"The government give you a right to a school and teachers."
 
This is after your previous post in which you explicitly stated, and I quote: "education isn't a right"
 
"Teachers can't make students learn."
 
But they can still teach, and in fact that is what they are paid to do (since you didn't seem to know). A teacher refusing to teach is a teacher literally outright refusing to do their only job.

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 8:37 pm

Please tell THAT too my English teacher O:

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Quantum1.0This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm

stuntddude:
First, why are you so darn argumentative all the time?
 
Anyway, getting to the point at hand:
 
""The government give you a right to a school and teachers." 
  
This is after your previous post in which you explicitly stated, and I quote: "education isn't a right""
 
And (since you don't seem to know) those are two different things. So I don't see what you're complaining about.
 
  
  

"But they can still teach, and in fact that is what they are paid to do (since you didn't seem to know)."
 
I would say that teacher was teaching you - if you're inconsiderate to people they don't like to help you (although clearly the lesson didn't sink in).
 

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:40 pm

The program I'm in in school right now is called IB. You might have heard of it, might not have. The point is, in this program, teachers act more as guides than telling you what to do all the time. In fact, a good teacher won't give you all the material/instructions/whatever, they'll make you think for yourself. This is often misconstrued as "not doing their job." Yet half my teachers I have to call "doctor." They're more than qualified, and they've been teaching for longer than I've been alive. For instance, IB chemistry forces you to learn more on your own from the textbook and when you do a lab or something, you go in, find a broad them on the board (like, "Density") and design your own lab, make your own procedure, and .....do it all on your own.



Are we really gonna start debating what makes a good teacher? We're teenagers. We don't have a clue. Okay?

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:45 pm

Jade: 
 
"Please tell THAT too my English teacher O:"
 
Clearly she didn't teach you :P JUST KIDDING haha
 
You're doing IB? Awesome :) Do you intend to apply outside of the States?

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:49 pm

Who knows. I have reason to go elsewhere, but it's still a little early to decide, or at least I feel that way. College is already scary-seeming enough XD



And I was just kidding about my English teacher :P I do that sometimes. Joke. Something sorely needed in this....entire forum at the moment >.>

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:50 pm

Hehe I just got what you meant. Ya know, I noticed it after I posted, but I was **TOO** lazy to fix it XD whoops.

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:51 pm

Or maybe I meant it to be ironic >.>.


NOW, SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE HECK IRONY IS DX I've never understood it well. ....this just gets worse and worse. I'm gonna go read a book now.....

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:54 pm

Irony is when you say something but the way you say it means that what you literally said is the opposite of what you mean. It's supposed to be subtle though, so saying something like, "That girl is SO beautiful" while rolling your eyes (i.e. you think she's ugly) is not ironic. It's basically a rhetorical device and when you talk about it formally, it is meant to show the contrast between appearances and reality. Good sarcasm is an example of irony. 

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 9:56 pm

I mean....I know what it is........nvm. I do but I don't but I do. Ahh DX

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 10:01 pm

Your understanding of ironic seems fine XD

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 10:59 pm

"And (since you don't seem to know) those are two different things."
 
No, they're not. An education consists of all the means necessary to become educated. When the government provides you with school, materials, and teachers (assuming these all do their job), they are literally giving you an education. Whether or not you choose to accept it is your own deal, but the point is that it's been provided for you because the government has deemed that it is your right. What you're doing is akin to denying that you have a right to free speech on the basis that you chose to remain silent.
 
"I would say that teacher was teaching you"
 
And that shows in great detail how little you know about how to teach effectively. Punishing an entire class equally for the actions of a few, via not doing your job, when the punishment is going to affect the original offenders less than everyone else, is stupid beyond measure, and although I'm hesitant to say this, I have to admit it does say a lot about you that you seem unable to see this for what it is.

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KatsKThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 11:07 pm

This argument is useless. This doesn't even really relate to the original purpose of the thread. I dunno, maybe that's just my understanding. anyways, I'm going to go off to bed now, but you can feel free to argue with me later if you wish.

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 11:17 pm

Off topic =/= useless.

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 26, 2013 at 11:25 pm

^ True, but this argument is genuinely useless. It is doing nothing but spreading ill will about a topic that, tbh, nobody actually cares about. And you two know it. Both of you, crush your egos & let's move on, this is silly. 
 
The Matriarch of TI has spoken. 
 
Heh. I should end all my posts like that. 


Actually... this gives me an idea...

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 27, 2013 at 12:02 am

Is anyone else dying to read Quantum's college essay?

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