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KatsK replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 12:17 am

I know, right, leafy? Some people are just missing out.

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Sh-t_Happened.This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 12:23 am

Blood tastes like metal >.>; Mustard is also now my most hated food ever. Causes too many problems bro.

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JubilexThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 12:43 am

Destinee
 
No blood? So, no red meat? Is that the idea? Because there's blood in that, you know, just in the meat.

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JubilexThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 1:49 am

Oh, and I'm going to add something interesting that I found.
 
youtube.co m/user/harpinmartin/videos
 
These are video tutorials on medical subjects, with handdrawn diagrams to go with them. They are really well done.

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 10:44 am

Flo: ignore my last statement about bacon.
 
Quantum: well...I kinda lost my papers so I can't like: go back and find them :/
But anyway, since you ask, my mom found this one dude on the internet (some genealogy site or other) that had a close ancestor that was the same as my dad's. The guy had already done all the work, we just had to fill in our own names under the near ancestor. And then I suppose you have to remember that the bible has it's own genealogies, and then you also have to remember, that regardless, I believe that I came biologically from Japheth (as I am of European decent) and then Noah as everyone is related to him. But since you want to challenge the validity of my genealogy, that's fine. But I still believe I came from Noah.
 
Destinee: I know that those kinds of food are slaughtered in more humane ways, but *cough-cough* it's not like my family A) has the access to them (we live on an island out in the middle of nowhere) and B) we don't have that much money anyway, so it would probably be better for us to go vegetarian and when we can afford it get some good meat.
 
Yep, no blood here. As for red meat, you soak and then cook the blood out of it. You have to do the same thing with other meats but not so carefully. Technically, according to the kosher laws, you can eat raw meat if you get all the blood out of it, which isn't too hard for fish anyway.
 
Btw, thanks for the resource. I'm sure I don't have any grudges. Anger isn't so much a problem as frustration is. Anxiety is something I have too much of. I'm not depressed anymore, thank God! I never was pessimistic...except if you count underneath the influence of depression. Ooh...jealousy. Hmm. Yeah, I admit it, I have a jealous streak. No low self-esteem--got it. Don't forget to be humble though :P As for judgmental--haha, you have no idea. I'm working on it, though, I'm working on it. Be patient with me?
 
As for the toxic relationships one...hmm. I might have to disagree with the article. I think it's better to stay in the relationship, but change it to where you are not under anyone's thumb, and then try to understand the person you're in a relationship with. Love that person and maybe they'll feel that love and hear God's call. But if not, keep loving them. I honestly think alienation is the worst course of action, because there will always be new people to replace the old.
 
Hatred. I'm more than thankful I don't have that anymore. I don't even think I'm capable of it. You know, I used to hate mosquitoes with a vengeance. Now I can't but think: it's not their fault.

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Quantum1.0This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 12:44 pm

", my mom found this one dude on the internet"
 
Not a good start for credibility here.
 
"The guy had already done all the work, we just had to fill in our own names under the near ancestor."
 
So basically you just trusted some random dude on the internet that he had traced his family all the way back to noah and Japheth which I am 99.9% sure isn't even possible given records. I know the Bible contains geneologies, but not modern ones. If you could give me some solid proof of such an extraordinary claim I'd buy it, but some geneology from a random guy on the internet doesn't cut it as evidence for something.

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 5:24 pm

Dude, Quantum, I never said it was evidence for anything. And I honestly don't need you to believe me or "buy it". I believe I came from Noah. Okay?

And I don't even think the guy on the internet was a christian, he was just tracing his own personal family history which happened to be exactly the same as mine. Of course there will be gaps of no records between modern times and ancient. But think, if I believe Noah is my ancestor, and that happens to be 100% true, then what am I doing wrong in tracing my ancestory back to him? You believe you come from a "homo sapien" (or whatever) for crying out loud.

But all that aside, I wasn't making note on that I came from Noah. I was making note that I had traced my family ancestory as far back as it could possibly go. There are 99.99% accurate records that I am a desendent of the McGreggor Clan, which I think is just too cool. I might even go and look for those papers later if I have time. It's interesting stuff.

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Dude, Quantum, I never said it was evidence for anything. And I honestly don't need you to believe me or "buy it". I believe I came from Noah. Okay? 
 
And I don't even think the guy on the internet was a christian, he was just tracing his own personal family history which happened to be exactly the same as mine. Of course there will be gaps of no records between modern times and ancient. But think, if I believe Noah is my ancestor, and that happens to be 100% true, then what am I doing wrong in tracing my ancestory back to him? You believe you come from a "hom.o sapien" (or whatever) for crying out loud.
 
But all that aside, I wasn't making note on that I came from Noah. I was making note that I had traced my family ancestory as far back as it could possibly go. There are 99.99% accurate records that I am a desendent of the McGreggor Clan, which I think is just too cool. I might even go and look for those papers later if I have time. It's interesting stuff.

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 7:52 pm

To whoever asked: I don't know how we cook red meat...sorry. I know that it's recommended in Islam to eat less red meat, although Pakistanis love their meat, so it's not like we follow that recommendation :P LOL. 

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 9:00 pm

"I've been psychologically biased against it since childhood"
 
Ah, the wonders of religion...
 
"You still wanna eat bacon?"
 
Yes.
 
Doctorbug:
 
LOL. I read a bit into the second site you linked. For one thing, those people need to hire a real web developer, that's one of the ugliest sites I've ever seen. Also, right near the top it says: "According to a number of sources," yet OH, how funny, the site cites no sources! This is not even wikipedia worthy. [citation needed]!
 
Really, you ought to start looking at scientific sources for your information. Judging from past experience, though, you'll probably completely disregard anything scientific without a second thought (or a first, for that matter).
 
"I believe I came from Noah. Okay?"
 
You believe things on admittedly entirely lacking evidence. You have no legitimate reason to believe something, and you admit that, but insist that you believe it anyways. Okay. So get out of the philosophy forum if you don't care about figuring out what's actually true.
 
"But think, if I believe Noah is my ancestor, and that happens to be 100% true, then what am I doing wrong in tracing my ancestory back to him?"
 
What, so now you're counting on luck? "Well what if it just so happens that I'm right?" Is that really what you're relying on now?
 
"You believe you come from a "hom.o sapien" (or whatever) for crying out loud."
 
No, humans are h.omo sapiens. H.omo is the genus and sapien is the species. It's a biological classification, not a person. Seriously, you don't even know the first thing about biology or evolution, and yet here you are attempting to ridicule it? Go learn at least SOMETHING about biology and/or evolution, then we'll talk.

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 9:05 pm

SDD: 
 
"Ah, the wonders of religion..."
It's actually culture this time :) Pakistanis make up a bunch of stuff about pigs and tell it to their children all the time.
 
For that matter, my mother used to tell me that if I yawned without covering my mouth S.atan would pee in it (lol). She made up a whole bunch of S.atan-related things to teach me manners, and I have the ickiness-factor to this day. (E.g. if you swing your legs while eating S.atan is riding on them happily, if you don't clean the gunk from the corners of your eyes that's S.atan's pee, etc etc). It's not religious, just a way to teach kids to behave. 
 
We do it a lot :)

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SummerIndigo replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 9:15 pm

Destinee: That is GROSS. lol

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 9:18 pm

Indigo: 
 
Hahah yeah XD If someone yawns without covering their mouth I feel really disgusted lol XD 

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CollinF replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 9:32 pm

^Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
I'm telling my kids that just to see the looks on their faces. XD
 
And on a sidenote, do Muslims have pretty much the same conception of Satan as Christians? I didn't even know he was a part of Muslim theology until I watched that video on modesty you recommended to me. 

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 9:57 pm

Collin: 
 
:D It's really good, I swear. It's like, all the white kids had Santa Claus, and my family had S.atan and his bowel movements. LOL. 
 
As for S.atan, he isn't a serpent in Islam. I would say the conception is pretty similar. (The Screwtape Letters was a great read, like I said, and anything within that could be applied to Islam.) 
 
However, in Islam, S.atan is a djinn, not an angel. He is "fallen", like in Christianity, because he, out of arrogance, refused to bow down to Adam (pbuh). Here [his name is Iblis before he became all evil and stuff]:
 
quran.c om/2/20-40
 

 
quran.c om/7/1-30
 

 
quran.c om/search?q=satan&page=2
 
are probably the most relevant passages :)

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 10:34 pm

Harvard Philosophy 101 lectures:
 
youtube.c om/watch?v=kBdfcR-8hEY

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 11:03 pm

"What We Are and Where We Are" by Gai Eaton
 
I posted this before but I like everything to be in one thread :D Tidier.
 
studiesincomparativereligion.c om/public/articles/What_We_Are_and_Where_We_Are.aspx
 
This is probably one of the most enlightening things I have read in a long time:
 
"Until "Edshu" reveals himself, can we blame men for fighting on behalf of their partial truths? Passionate attachment to a particular formulation (and for many temperaments there can be no faith with-out passion) often involves intolerance towards other, complementary formulations; but to replace this narrow fervor with a tolerance based on agnosticism and indifference is to substitute a greater evil for a lesser one. From this point of view it is dangerous to over-estimate the intelligence of ordinary people, whether in the West or elsewhere. The man who has grasped one aspect of the truth, seeing clearly—for example—that Edshu's hat is red (or green, as the case may be) has made effective contact with reality and can therefore be said to be on the right track. If we tell him that he is indeed right, but only up to a point—certainly the hat is red, but it is also green—we may leave him so confused that he no longer knows the true from the false. A certain narrowness of view can have a protective function, but we must pay a price for this in terms of intolerance and human conflict." (From the essay)

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CollinF replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 11:07 pm

:) Oh, man. Your mom sounds like a character. 
 
And he's not really a serpent in Christianity either. He just takes that shape when talking to Eve, much the same way angels take the shape of people when they're carrying God's messages. 
 
And oh yeah, I forgot you liked The Screwtape Letters so much. That shoulda given me a hint. :)
 
And thanks for the resources! I'll check em out as soon as I finish watching the Intelligence Squared debate on "Has Science Buried God." I just got introduced to Ian Hutchinson. Genius professor at MIT + British accent + Christian faith = Me likey. :)
 
Do any of those links explain djinn? I've always found em confusing. Our world history book described em as spirits inhabiting inanimate objects or somesuch, kinda like Robin Williams as the Genie in Aladdin. 

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Destinee replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 11:14 pm

Collin: 
 
No, they don't explain djinn, sorry :/ Basically djinn are spiritual beings made of "smokeless fire" (angels are apparently made of light) that kinda have their own world, but that can be accessed in this world through black magic and the like (all of which is strictly haram). Genies are supposed to be djinn but Disney kinda... erm... stretched it a bit. Djinn have free will, and can be good or bad. They can appear in various forms but for the most part leave people alone. They can possess people too, apparently, but it's like... one of those things that people are obsessed with that barely happens, LOL. 
 
As for inhabiting objects, umm... I don't think they do that. They kinda have their own lives and societies. Haha. 

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KatsK replied...
Aug. 6, 2013 at 11:48 pm

"All the white kids had Santa, and my family had Sa.tan and his bowel movements."
You are the best. Dess, that made my day, honestly. :)

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