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zander101 posted this thread...
Jul. 11, 2013 at 10:31 pm

starting tomorrow I will post morning devotionals
also for Quantum and all yall that disagree.
however much i love yall guys this aint a debate page i just figure more people will see it here.
hope this helps yall, and if you have a question please ask, other christians and people just plain interested please join in the descutions

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half.note replied...
Jul. 11, 2013 at 10:44 pm

I tried doing a Bible study thread earlier this year, but I got busy and didn't stick with it, hopefully this one will last... Best of luck, zander!
And I'll be happy to join in any discussions; this should be fun. :D
God bless. ♥

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Quantum1.0 replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 12:27 am

Gotcha. I will read them for personal interest, but will keep my mouth shut.

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 10:28 pm

oh no please enter in to it.
I just dont want to make an argument out of this.
okay guys first one!
from psalms 56:8-11
( if you want to look it up, open the bible in the middle and youl be in psalms or proverbs, if your in proverbs youve gone one book to far k? )
"... you number my wanderings;
put my tears into your bottle;
Are they not in your book? when I cry out to you,
Then my enimies will turn back;
in Go.d ( I will praise His word )
In the Lord ( I will praise His word ),
In God I have put my trust; I will not be afraid.
What can man do to me?"...
okay guys this is what i got from this:
Go.d knows when we call out to Him.
He cares, He even puts the number of times we need Him in a book, it says that our enimies will turn back when we call on Him.
He actualy does care, you may not know it now.
you may not even believe He exists. but He, all the while is holding all your fears and tears in a bottle.
sound wierd? yup to me too, but its awsome too.
also when He said  "... what can man do to me...?"
He isnt saying anything stupid like " people cant physicly harm me!"
He is saying that his soul, his life is not up for sale, not touchable, in Christ we have eternal life.
we know that Go.d is with us, Because He said so, He may seem distant, but He
never leaves, actualy its us who leaves.
any Questions guys?
also i urge you to look this up for yourselves in the bible, ither the nkjv ( new king james version)
or the kjv ( king james version)
the diference is the wording in old inglish.
its hard to read if your not used to it but it all says the same thing.
please look into this and never take my word that the Bible says something or not.
look it up.
Yall mean a lot to me, I have the advice thread and this one cause even though i dont know you.
I care, this is because Jesus christ loves you.
thanks and God bless,

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Destinee replied...
Jul. 13, 2013 at 2:44 am

I like this Psalm. :)
I think it has several layers:
a) On the most obvious layer, there is the fact that Prophet David (peace be upon him) led a lot of battles. Whether or not he actually wrote the Psalm, he fought Goliath, for instance, and was a commander too I believe (Biblically speaking). Hence, this Psalm can be seen as simply a truth - that his enemies are everywhere, and they scheme against him, yet he continuously conquers because God is with him. Some verses, e.g. 56:7, seem specifically addressed to this layer. 
b) On a deeper level, there is the fact that his enemies are also more spiritual. There is the constant threat of l.ust (the story of Bathsheba for instance), there is constant threat of anger, envy, malice, spite, disbelief, and a whole host of sins. S.atan is ever wily - "twisting his words" - ever cunning, and there are the inclinations of his own soul - surely the soul is quick to fall into temptation. In God, then, David (pbuh) finds refuge. And he utters a universal truth: What can a human to do the man who has trusted in God? For all men are under God's power, and all need him for sustenance, and David (pbuh) finds in God protection against his own evil inclinations. Life is a constant struggle, though the future looks bleak and the past is misery, if David (pbuh) knows he has God's promise, he knows no-one can harm him. God alone is the answer to all of our temptations - seek refuge in God, as Joseph (pbuh) did when the beautiful lady tried to seduce him, or as Abraham (pbuh) did when he was thrown into the fire for his belief. God has prevented their feet from stumbling, as the Psalm says, and God prevents David (pbuh) from stumbling, for God helps those who turn to Him.

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Destinee replied...
Jul. 13, 2013 at 2:45 am

Oh, apparently this Psalm was written when David (pbuh) was caught by Philistines. Gives it some context, eh? :) 

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 13, 2013 at 10:15 pm

hey guys im only gonna post a couple of these a week okay?
that gives time for feedback.
okay so tomorrow night I will post one and then on wednesday.
alright guys

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CollinF replied...
Jul. 14, 2013 at 1:43 am

Beautiful psalm, zander. Thanks. :) This is a great idea. 

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CollinF replied...
Jul. 14, 2013 at 1:48 am

I'll recommend that you, (like TheKing) read Ecclesiastes. I think you might like it. It's one of the Bible's little-known treasures. It describes what life feels like if one doesn't take God into the picture, then shows in the end how God can relieve the depressing feelings that come with this and solve humanity's intellectual problem. You can just read it online if it's more convenient; it's a really short book.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, zander! Just wanted to let Quantum know that, and I don't have his personal contact info. Keep doin your thing, man. ;)

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 15, 2013 at 4:27 pm

its all good man.
alright guys todays study is on the book of Job ( pronounced JOBE)
he had everything a man could want, he loved his kids and loves Go.d.
one day the devil came to God and said that he wanted to make job deny Go.d.
God said that he could try his best but that job loved him and would hold fast, the devil could do enything exept harm job himself.
it was horroble, terrible things happend, all his kids died, his servents were killed and even his own wife said.
-you  should curse Go.d-
but not job, he wouldnt, and Go.d honered that.
but then job started whining about how he thought God was unfair, he didnt curse him.
but he complained a lot, and was angry that all these things had happend, so finaly.
GO.d spoke, Go.d himself, and this is the longest recorded time that Go.d himself has spoken to a man
this is what he said-

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 15, 2013 at 4:47 pm

job 38-3 dress for action, like a man;
I will question you and you will make it known to me.
where were you when i laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding, wheo determined its measurements- surely you know!
or who streched a line upon it?
on what were its basis sunk or who laid the cornerstone?
when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of Go.d shouted for joy?
or who shut the sea with doors when it burst from the womb?
when i made the clouds its garment,and thick darkness its swaddling band,
and prescribed limits for it and set thebars and doors.
and said, thus far shall you come and no farther.
and here shall your proud waves be stayed?
have you commanded the morning since your days began?
and coused the dawn to know its place?
that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth...?
..." ( job 38-18 ) have you comprehended the expanse of the earrh?
Declare, if you know all this.
where is the way to the dwelling of light?
and where is the place of darkness?
that you may take it to its territory.
and that you may decern the paths to its home.
you know, for you were born then ( hear the sarcasm?)
and the number of your days is great!
have you entered the storhouses of snow, or have you see the storehouses of hail?
which i have reserved for the time of battle, or trouble and war?
what is the way to the place where light is distributed?
or where the east wind is scattered on the earth...?
job 40-7 -
dress for action like a man I will question and you will make it know to me...

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 15, 2013 at 4:54 pm

read the rest yourselves, God goes on to ask  job if he will judge him.
as if a man should or could.
God is not judged by us, we cant even begin to grasp this.
Go.d challenged job, but at the end of the book
He deals kindly with job, and is not angry.
even when we deserve punishment Go.d sometimes will give grace.
we should think carefully before questioning Go.d, and when we do, how we questoin Him.
read 38- all the way through the end.
its not vary long and even if you dont believe in Him, this is vary interesting.
hope yall get somethiing out of this, sorry i couldnt post the whole chapter.

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 20, 2013 at 12:15 pm

hey guys, any questions or things you want me
to talk about?

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 21, 2013 at 8:47 pm

alright heres this next bible study.
this dude seriously should have know He couldnt run from God.
He heard from God all the time.
He was a prophet.
so He runs away and this is what happens.
jonah 1-4 " then God sent a great wind on the sea, and such a violent storm came about that the ship threatened to break apart.
( btw he tried to run away from God because God told him to preach to his enimies, so he boarded a boat, forgetting that God kinda has controll over the sea...)
... All of the sailers were afraid,and each cried out to his own God.
and they threw the cargo into the sea to lighten the ship.
But jonah had gone below deck, where he lay down and fell into a deep sleep.
The captain went to him and said
' how can you sleep?
get up and call on your god,maybe he will take notice of us and we will not parish.'
then the sailors said
' come let us cast lots,to find out who is responsible for this calamity.
they cast and the lots fell on jonah.
and they said...
tell us who is responsible for making all this truble?
what do we do, where do you come from?
what is your country?
from what people are  you?
and jonah answered and said
" I am a hebrew, i worship the God of the sea and the land."
and they said to Him, what have you done!?
( but they knew he had run away from the Lord)
the sea was getting rugher and so they said.
" what shall we do with you to make the sea calm down for us?"
and He said pick me up and throw me into the sea, and it will become calm..."

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 21, 2013 at 8:50 pm

most of our trubbles come from ignoring or running away from God, we cant get away.
he wont let us out of his sight.
now just to finish the story, God spared Jonah.
and jonah in turn followed Gods orders.
but if you read the book, and its vary short.
you will see that he had a lot of problems.
dont run away from God, he will follow you,
and you cant run vary far, the earth is round :)

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 23, 2013 at 11:07 am

hey guys i wont be posting for a week after monday.
cause i got Patriot Academy.
look it up!

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half.note replied...
Jul. 23, 2013 at 7:34 pm

Oops. Sorry, zander. I know I said I'd contribute but I haven't posted at all. :/
My sister actually studied Job a couple months ago. I plan on geting to it eventually, but until then I may not be very helpful...
Anyways, just a suggestion: Maybe you should go through Proverbs (maybe not all of it, but at least a chapter or two would be cool). I think Proverbs works really well as a devotional and a simple enough study. 
Oh, and have fun at the "Partriot Academy"! :)
God bless. ♥

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 24, 2013 at 11:37 am

Proverbs 10:19-b through verse 24
..." but whoever restrians his lops is prudent,the tongue of the rightious is as choice silver.
the heart of the wicked is of little worth, but the lips of the rightious feed many.
but fools die for lack of sence, the blessing of the Lord makes rich!
and he adds no sorrow woth it.
doing wrong is like a joke to a fool, but wisdom is pleasure to a man of understanding.
what the wicked dreads will come opon him,but the desire of the right standing man of God will come opon him.

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 24, 2013 at 11:52 am

sorry guys I said Lops instead of lips that first time.
but really this passage is all about the contrast of evil to good, and HOW God vews each one.
I think there is not much to say, as this is strait foreward in almost every sence.
take wrong and right seriously, they are real. and they both have real consoquinces.
call it carma if you will, but the bible says that God sees, infact one women in the old testament sais, " .... for you are the God who sees..."
not that God stands over you with a bug trident and says :" please give me a reason to do this..."
but if you murder you get the chair or the rope.
and if you sin you get death, we are all slowly dying.
but God gives a gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ.
He took on all the kinds of sin in the world so that we can shuck ours and be free of evil and have desire to do right.
all we have to do is believe this:
..." for God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son, that whoever belived in Him might not parish but have eternal life.
for He did not come into the world to condemn the world, but that through Him the world might be saved.
whoever dose believe in Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned alreadly because he has not believed in the one and only son of God.
and this is the evil; that the light came into the world, but the people loved the dark more than the light, because there works were evil.
for every person in the dark hates the light because it exposes there evil.
but those who are do well love the light and come into it so that there works may be clearly seen by all and that they have done right with God.
( john three sixteen through twenty one )
thats what he wants, not more bloodshed, not more evil, although he is  a good judge and has to punish evil outside of christs covering.
he wants you to follow him out of the darkness, so that yours will be reward instead of punishment.

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