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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 4:32 am

half.note:
 
Ah, gotta love the placebo effect. Mental health and physical health are intertwined in such fascinatingly intricate ways.
 
As for the bitterness causing cancer, your dad can come back when he's done a study XD. And I think you mean "carcinogens," not "cancerogens."

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 12:19 pm

stuntddude:
 
Indeed. Quite fascinating. :)
 
And yes, I did mean "carcinogens." Thank you for the correction. I knew "cancerogens" was wrong but I was too lazy to fix it. XD
 
Still, I think there is some validity to my dad's theory. I know he hasn't done a study or anything, but I already know of one case where it happened:
My mom's lawyer was one of the most angry and bitter women my dad says he had ever met. She recently got diagnosed with cancer. Coincidence? Could be.... Somebody really should do a study. XD
 
God bless. ♥

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Izuo.This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 7:28 pm

Yup, I agree mostly with what you guys are saying. Mental health affects physical health and they're intertwined together ever so tightly... 

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 8:54 pm

"My mom's lawyer was one of the most angry and bitter women my dad says he had ever met. She recently got diagnosed with cancer. Coincidence?"
 
Yes, probably. One case isn't enough to discern a correlation for anything, let alone to discern a causation from that correlation.

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 10:27 pm

^ I never suggested it did, just giving one example I know of, and saying that it is certainly possible.
After all, emotional stress is known to supress the immune system (ht tp://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2270233).
Being angry all the time could do it... but I honestly don't know either way. It's just a guess.
God bless. ♥

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Jul. 12, 2013 at 10:36 pm

lol whatevah's dude, whatevah's :P This is why I like the mind-body problem =w=

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zander101 replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 10:43 pm

this is an awsome topic!
realy i think its because Go.d made us all to strech and find more about ourselves,
like in martial arts;
we learn to strech our bodys to make them more flexible, to meditate and clear out destractions.
so we then become vary dangerous, or maybe more loving, because power ither corrupts or builds up.
also we are made to become stronger each day,
ive done things that should not be possible, bot lo, I did it anyway.
wierd huh?
also laughter is proven to make your middle systems stronger, cool.
so how we live in our fealings can make a difference even if we are strong physicly!

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 12, 2013 at 11:22 pm

Ignoring the religious post :P
 
half.note: Sorry if I misinterpreted you, but I took "I already know of one case where it happened" as indication that you believed that case was an example of the phenomenon.

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 13, 2013 at 12:43 am

^ It's fine, we're cool. :)
 
I realize how difficult it is to correctly interpret a stranger's belief from only a couple sentences written hundreds of kilometres away. Especially when you don't know me personally and you can't see my expression or body language. All you have is a jumble of words on a screen (which I don't always put so eloquently, and I apologize for that). Also, once you read it, you have to imagine what I mean and you can't question me about it right away and I can't answer you right away.
 
That's the drawback to debating on an online forum...
 
Anyways, glad we cleared it up. :)
 
Have a fantastic night.... or day.... or whatever time you are reading this (another drawback to online forums.... XD).
God bless. ♥

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Jul. 13, 2013 at 10:12 pm

I dunno... I think there are some insurmountable mental limits. They may be rare, but they exist.
 
Picture the fourth dimension.
 
You can't really do it. One dimension is a line, that line squared is a square, that line cubed is a cube, that line to the fourth... becomes what?
 
(And yes, I know about tesseracts, but we can't really picture those correctly. All we can do is picture it as a projection into three-dimsneional space- like triyng to draw a cube on a flat sheet of paper. We have a rough idea of what it would look like but can't really see it.)
 
Visualizing higher dimensions is a mental limit that can't be overcome.

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Jul. 13, 2013 at 10:41 pm

Eh, when i picture the fourth dimension, i make this really cool fractal looking art thing in my head XD lol totally wrong, but it's pretty.

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 14, 2013 at 1:16 am

Also a fun challenge: Try to imagine an object in three dimensional space, visuals included. All the way around the object. Imagine the back side of it as well, the far side that you can't see. But not like you'd see a wireframe model, I'm talking about imagining the far side of a totally solid object.
 
...Now my brain hurts.

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PotatoeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 14, 2013 at 2:35 am

Wait, you mean like spinning it around and stuff? Cuz i can do that with ease o^o

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 14, 2013 at 5:45 am

No, I mean imagine you're looking at it from a fixed perspective, and try to see the other side in your mind's eye.

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