The only time i had ever advocated communism is when i dressed up as China and Russia hugged me. If that made no sense to you, go watch Hetalia.
well, as we are finding out in America;
any kind of Government is still prone to problems and probubly is going to have them.
I would like to say democracy is good but look at america's sitiuation at preasent
also England is having trouble but they are parlamentery, wich is vary similar to ours ( america's )
but then with a dictator you have people who are tyranicle and have problems mentaly and who will remain in power for who knows how long.
I personaly think that Government founded on basic concervative ideas will likely succeed but we realy have never had a government fully succeed.
its an interesting concept, ill look into this more.
thanks quantum, good discution
Someone tell me what Canada has... I'm not even kidding, I'm part of the country and I'm still not sure. Is is a constitutional monarchy or a parlimentary democracy or wat? o^o Confusing. Like I know how it works, but I'm not sure of the name...
The best way I can think to describe Canada is a mixed-market constitutional parliamentary republican democracy with a side of traditional royal monarchy.
Ooooh, yay! A political thread! :D
I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect government as long as there are impefect people, but I think a democracy can get us close.
Democracy allows the people to have some say in the government and allows better representation of the opinions and concerns of the citizens (tyranny of the majority is a myth, IMO, since the official opposition always serves as a balance).
Anyways, I know much more about the Canadian government than I do the American.
The Canadian one is actually rather strange. Technically the British monarch is our monarch, too, and has the last say on if a law gets passed. But the Queen is too busy (or doesn't care enough) so instead of doing it herself she elects a Governor General to represent her.
It's kind of cool, actually. XD
And you're partly right, stuntddude. Officially Canada is known as a parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy. We're not a republic, though. To be so we'd have to come out from under the control of our monarch.
Just out of curiousity, what sort of political views do you guys have?
wait.... so we're both? o.O Well, guess i was right...
*british accent* Spot on, my dear!
Government-wise I'm pro-democracy. For those of you who know about the American party system I'm a liberal conservative or a conservative liberal depending how you want to look at it.
I support government staying out of things as much as possible. I'm personally pro-life (in most situations), but think that government should stay out of abo.rtion related stuff. I have no problems with g.ay marriage and think government should stay out of that too.
I also support a balanced budget (not like that's going to happen).
I support some welfare/social security/medicare related stuff, but I think all that stuff needs to be cut both for budget balancing reasons and if we're going to have good incentives for people to work hard.
I think we should just let illegal immigrants in. To tie both of the two previous points together I'll point out that I recently read that in NC farmers and builders can't find enough labor, yet there is unemployment. To me this means:
a) Welfare is too good.
b) Illegal immigrants aren't taking anybody's jobs.
Ummm...let's see what else.
I support a lowered drinking age. (Although I have no desire to personally drink I think if someone can be drafted they should be able to buy a drink).
Anyway, that's a good start.
Economically, I support regulated capitalism (mixed market). Capitalism is very good for providing incentives and balancing itself out, but some sort of governmental safety net is good. I think communism is a great idea in theory, but just like benevolent dictators it doesn't work in reality.
Thanks for sharing, Quantum! :D
It's an interesting point you made about how there is a shortage of labourers yet still unemployment.
I'd go with the welfare reason! XD
Of course, point b may be just as true...
In Canada we encourage immigration because of labour shortages. Especially here in Alberta with so many jobs in the oil field we need lots of workers, so outside help is always welcomed. XD
God bless. ♥
uhhh... yeah im not actually that good with politics XD im pro choice, and uhh... welfare’s good. and stuff. and more stuff. and i say we follow the aussies. or, something?
I better stay out of this thread. I'll polute it with inflammatory conservative messages and religious babble :P
No Doctorbug! I want to hear your thoughts! :)
Uh...I'll have to present them as personal opinion because I'm in no mood to defend them...
I personally think that Kings and Queens that follow God righteously are the best form of government. In otherwords, just somebody that makes sure God's law is followed to the letter...in otherwords, God's law would be the one ruling, not anybody in particular.'
^ Agreed. :)
Ah, finally found the Ellen White quote I wanted:
"God has revealed in His law the principles that underlie all true prosperity both of nations and of individuals. "This is your wisdom and your understanding," Moses declared to the Israelites of the law of God. "It is not a vain thing for you; because it is your life." Deuteronomy 4:6; 32:47. The blessings thus assured to Israel are, on the same conditions and in the same degree, assured to every nation and every individual under the broad heavens.
The power exercised by every ruler on the earth is Heaven-imparted; and upon his use of the power thus bestowed, his success depends. To each the word of the divine Watcher is, "I girded thee, though thou hast not known Me." Isaiah 45:5. And to each the words spoken to Nebuchadnezzar of old are the lesson of life: "Break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility." Daniel 4:27.
To understand these things,--to understand that "righteousness exalteth a nation;" that "the throne is established by righteousness" and "upholden by mercy" (Proverbs 14:34; 16:12; 20:28); to recognize the outworking of these principles in the manifestation of His power who "removeth kings, and setteth up kings" (Daniel 2: 21),--this is to understand the philosophy of history.
In the word of God only is this clearly set forth. Here it is shown that the strength of nations, as of individuals, is not found in the opportunities or facilities that appear to make them invincible; it is not found in their boasted greatness. It is measured by the fidelity with which they fulfill God's purpose."
[Education, pgs. 174-175]
*eyes widen as she realizes she just turned this into a religion debate, too*
Ha. Ha. Woops.
*backs out slowly*
Oh you bad bad girl...
*peeks back in*
Blame Doctorbug. She mentioned theocracies first. :P
Can you exactly, candidly define what God's law is DB?
Depends on who you ask. For a capitalist, rich off the wealth he stole from the working class, capitalism is. For the workers libertarian communism is. It's all relative