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human6 posted this thread...
May 16, 2013 at 9:22 am

 
      SPEAKING of Puritanism in relation to American art, Mr. Gutzon Borglum said: "Puritanism has made us self-centered and hypocritical for so long, that sincerity and reverence for what is natural in our impulses have been fairly bred out of us, with the result that there can be neither truth nor individualality in our art."
      Mr. Borglum might have added that Puritanism has made life itself impossible. More than art, more than estheticism, life represents beauty in a thousand variations; it is indeed, a gigantic panorama of eternal change. Puritanism, on th other hand, rests on a fixed and immovable conception of life; it is based on the Calvinistic idea that life is a curse, imposed upon man by the wrath of God. In order to redeem himself man must do constant penance, must repudiate every natural and healthy impulse, and turn his back on joy and beauty.
 

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 9:40 am

Puritanism, or simply Christianity?

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human6 replied...
May 16, 2013 at 3:57 pm

Religion in general.

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Quantum1.0This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 5:34 pm

I agree in regards to Puritanism and some modern religious groups. Saying this in regard to all religion seems a little extreme, though.

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 6:06 pm

I think it's very accurate to say that certain individuals, and at a time in history, the majority of Christians (not sure about other religions) have been the hypocrits you accused them of. However, that is a stereotype, and if you took the time to get to know Christians, many of them aren't hypocrites at all. I'm interested in knowing why you think this. It's one thing to assign a label: HYPOCRITE to an individual, it's a whole other thing to try and brand an entire religion/group of people as such. 

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 6:06 pm

wow that wasn't very coherent, but you get my meaning. hopefully XD

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CollinFThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 9:08 pm

The audacity of humanism.

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CollinFThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 9:09 pm

btw, that was an amazingly error-free post, human. You have no idea how proud I am. :;) This must be somethin he really cares about . . . 

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human6 replied...
May 16, 2013 at 11:16 pm

It was a quote from Emma Goldman's essay:
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Imaginedangerous replied...
May 16, 2013 at 11:33 pm

A large chunk of it was quoted, Collin. ;)
 
I agree with the 'Puritanism' part, but not 'religion in general'. It's possible to believe in God and still appreciate the good things in life.

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human6 replied...
May 16, 2013 at 11:36 pm

It's criticizing anti s ex religion. As anti human:
The Church, as well as Puritanism, has fought the flesh as something evil; it had to be subdued and hidden at all cost. The result of this vicious attitude is only now beginning to be recognized by modern thinkers and educators. They realize that "nak edness has a hygienic value as well as a spiritual significance, far beyond its influences in allaying the natural inquisitiveness of the young or acting as a preventative of morbid emotion. It is an inspiration to adults who have long outgrown any youthful curiosities. The vision of the essential and eternal human form, the nearest thing to us in all the world, with its vigor and its beauty and its grace, is one of the prime tonics of life

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 16, 2013 at 11:48 pm

HA. well if god DIDNT want us to enjoy se.x, why'd he make it so darn......enjoyable? O.o some Christian doctrine is just pure adult-paranoia. To be honest. God wants us to love se.x XD just in the concept of marriage...

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
May 17, 2013 at 2:03 am

^ And this from the Pimp Queen... XD
 
 
On topic:
 
Well, I guess it all depends on where you're coming from.
 
(But to say that religion is hyproctical is missing the mark, I think.)
 
 
Anyways, I believe that the human flesh is naturally disposed towards sinning. We can't give into every desire because that is what Satan uses to control us.
 
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9)
 
I believe it is important to learn self-denial. It doesn't make you hypocritical or unappreciative of beauty. And it certainly doesn't make you "self-centered." Quite the opposite, in fact. By not following every lust and desire, you can focus more on others.
 
 
Well, I'm dog tired. I better go to sleep.
 
God bless. ♥

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human6 replied...
May 22, 2013 at 10:53 pm

That's the thing I don't believe s ex is sin. It's a part of life no different from taking a walk, actually more human because we don't get our body telling us to walk. Religious anti s ex is hypocritical because it fails and creates its own enemy. Pro stitution is the product of our cultures fear of s ex. It is the natural result of repression. But it's own father, Christian culture hunts it and treats it like evil.

Another point abstr ence only education has been proven not to work, but it's pushed because the alternative is kids having s ex.

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human6 replied...
May 22, 2013 at 10:53 pm

Phone saw this typed so its really weak spelling.

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