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ContemplatorThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 23, 2013 at 10:24 pm

*bump* 
 
Thanks half.note for the video. I watched the first few minutes. This is exactly what I was thinking! 

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Breece6 replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 7:14 am

I'm only going to respnod to one part of this thread now:
 
Quote: "Why would they share a bed!?"
 
Well ya see, Robin is kind of 
 
AN ORPHAN
 
and ya know Batman is kind of
 
AN ORPHAN
 
maybe they feel a bit lacking of healthy, non-romantic relationships in their lives 'cause they're
 
BOTH ORPHANS
 
And ya know on top of that there's the whole thing about how villains are always breaking into Wayne Mansion and trying to kill them so being close together might help them
 
ORPHANS
 
not get killed by the
 
ORPHANS
 
and when Bane or the Joker uses
 
ORPHANS
 
their evil plans to attack them then
 
ORPHANS 
 
they might stand a better chance when they're closer together.
 
 
 
ORPHANS.

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:41 am

Annie had a bed to herself

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Breece6 replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 11:24 am

Hmm... Was Annie being pursued by supervillians trying to murder her?
 
ORPHANS

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 11:39 am

Yes..... Watch the movie :)

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RedsFan23This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 12:11 pm

Packerbacker: You're an NFL fan, right? Couldn't I argue that someone could "replace" God with Brett Favre? NFL games are on Sundays. Does that mean the NFL is a plot to get people to abandon churches? Are all football fans being controlled by Sat.an? Are you not going to let your children watch the NFL?

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ContemplatorThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Breece: Bruce Wayne is a multi millionaire who equipped his mansion with the most advanced security. He even hired magicians to place a barricade in portals. His mansion is more secure than the white house. 
 
 But, if they share a bed to increase their safety against villians, then it might be okay. 
 
Reds: This is called idolizing. It is a sin. If Favre is being made into  an idol by a person, then it would be good for that person to stop watching NFL altogether. 

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Breece6 replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm

Contemplator:
 
PFFT, a true batman fan would know there's been plenty of times that villains have broken into Wayne Manor.
 
The problem you're missing is the key fact that proves Batman is heteros.exual:
 
He doesn't live in a mansion.  He lives in a 
 
MANsion.  

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RedsFan23This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 25, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Contemplator: Exactly. You could idolize Brett Favre or any number of players and accept all the immoral behavior that they take part in and then do it yourself. Or you could just be entertained by the sport they play.
 
Just like you could idolize Batman and sleep in bed with other men just like he does, or you could just watch his show because it's entertaining and not let it affect your values whatsoever. My point was, as others have pointed out, that you can idolize a whole lot of things but that doesn't mean people can't healthily enjoy them.

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ContemplatorThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 26, 2013 at 11:55 pm

Half.note posted the adress to a video that talks about how super heros are replacing God. I watched it and thought it very good. I disagree with them on some things. But I agree with the general idea.

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 27, 2013 at 12:11 am

Actually, a lot of superheroes, such as superman, are symbols FOR God. At least originally.

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 27, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Bump...... Breece, no rebuttal for the Annie reference? I'm shocked :P

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Breece6 replied...
Mar. 27, 2013 at 3:48 pm

Pffft...
 
Annie had superpowers, she didn't have supervillains with superpowers chasing her though. 


Of course she wasn't scared :P

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 27, 2013 at 3:58 pm

She wasn't scared? She wasn't being chased by people with superpowers?
Beg to diffah! :).

Batman and Robin are as equally matched to a villain as Annie is to a grown up. In fact, her adversary, in comparison, is much scarier.

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 29, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Contemplator:
 
Glad you liked it. :)
But what didn't you agree with?
 
 
RarelyJaded:
 
Superman was created to be like Jesus, but he’s not--that's the danger. He is a false representation.
(You should watch the video I linked.)
 
______________
 
 
Anyways, I really think people underestimate the power that television, and even books or comics, have in affecting the mind.
 
The affect may not be immediate or obvious, but it is there. Our thoughts are taken off of Jesus and we are subject to Satan’s lies and temptations.
 
“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.” (Genesis 3:1)
 
Satan’s no dummy. He knows how to get us. The best way to tempt us with a lie is to mingle the lie with truth. Also, he works slowly and patiently.
 
Here’s a quote from The Great Controversy by Ellen White which I think gives a good perspective on it:
 
“There is nothing that the great deceiver fears so much as that we shall become acquainted with his devices. The better to disguise his real character and purposes, he has caused himself to be so represented as to excite no stronger emotion than ridicule or contempt. He is well pleased to be painted as a ludicrous or loathsome object, misshapen, half animal and half human. He is pleased to hear his name used in sport and mockery by those who think themselves intelligent and well informed. {GC 516.3}
It is because he has masked himself with consummate skill that the question is so widely asked: "Does such a being really exist?" It is an evidence of his success that theories giving the lie to the plainest testimony of the Scriptures are so generally received in the religious world. And it is because Satan can most readily control the minds of those who are unconscious of his influence, that the word of God gives us so many examples of his malignant work, unveiling before us his secret forces, and thus placing us on our guard against his assaults.” {GC 517.1}
 
 
“But what makes TV so bad?” you may ask.
 
I think Romans 1 explains it best:
 
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
 
In these verses, we are given a lengthy list of sins which really should all be labeled “as seen on TV.”
Then it solemnly states that those who do them are worthy of death, but not only those that to them, but those who take pleasure in it.
 
Isn’t that what TV is? We enjoy watching people being greedy, lying, murdering, fornicating, and disobeying authority. I mean, it wouldn’t be interesting if there wasn’t some sort of conflict and somebody doing evil.
And we actually take pleasure in this! Which makes us just as deserving of death as those who do those acts!
 
 
But, I say none of this to condemn you.
In fact, watching television is something I struggle with. I know I shouldn’t watch it, but I do anyway.
It is my #1 temptation, and I’m not proud of it.
 
All I can do is hope you consider how dangerous it is.
 
God bless. ♥

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 29, 2013 at 3:42 pm

Nobody ever said symbols replaced the thing they symbolized.

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 29, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Oh yeah, that's not really what I meant. I read it again and realized that I didn't explain it very well.
 
Let me try again:
 
Superman was created to be a Saviour and to give people hope during the time of war.
 
Actually, his creators were J-ws who don't actually believe in Jesus.
 
And given his characteristics, Superman is just a twisted representation of Christ. He was sent by his father to save the human race, but he isn't a humble servant like Christ. He also draws his power from the sun (tying him to pagan sun worship).
 
Again, you really should watch The Replacement Gods (the movie I linked), it explains all this.
 
Here's the link again:
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God bless. ♥
 

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 29, 2013 at 9:35 pm

I can agree with that :) no one does Jesus like jesus does. Although.........neo from the matrix is pretty awesome :P

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ContemplatorThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 31, 2013 at 3:54 pm

half.note: 
When the speaker was comparing Persues to Jesus, she called Persues a "half man, half god. Just like Jesus". They may not have noticed their error. But because they did not take any time clarifying who Jesus is as God, I just presumed that they do not believe in the holy trinity.

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 31, 2013 at 5:30 pm

I think they were just referring to the fact that Jesus is both human and divine.
I don't think they were disregarding the trinity.

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