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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. posted this thread...
Mar. 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm

Then answer the 8 hardest questions o philosophy and explain why you think this (or ask for elaboration on a question):


1. Why is there something rather than nothing?

2. Is our universe real?
3. Do we have free will?

4. Does God exist?
5. Is there life after death?

6. Can you really experience anything objectively?

7. What is the best moral system?
8. What are numbers?

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Breece6 replied...
Mar. 5, 2013 at 6:40 pm

1. Why would there be nothing rather than something?  Every piece of space in this universe has something in it, even if it's only the planck sized "foam" that makes up reality itself, there is no true "nothingness" in our universe.
 
2. Yes, if it were non-real then at the very least the concept exists or else this would not be possible, and all evidence lends to the notion that this is possible.
 
3. Yes, regardless of whether that free will is calculated before or after universal pre-determination is another matter.
 
4. Probably.  I can feel him :D
 
5. No, death is the absence of life.  Is there something that transcends life after death?  Hopefully.
 
6. No, our very bodies are bias.
 
7. One that adapts when needed.
 
8. Human concepts to describe the differences in dimensions.
 
Apologies if I don't reply to any replies you might have soon.  I'm a little scarce on time :P

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm

Okay, I knew I would need elaboration:)
 
1. Why is there something rather than nothing?Our presence in the universe is something too bizarre for words. The mundaneness of our daily lives cause us take our existence for granted — but every once in awhile we're cajoled out of that complacency and enter into a profound state of existential awareness, and we ask: Why is there all thisstuff in the universe, and why is it governed by such exquisitely precise laws? And why should anything exist at all? We inhabit a universe with such things as spiral galaxies, the aurora borealis, and SpongeBob Squarepants. And as Sean Carroll notes, "Nothing about modern physics explains why we have these laws rather than some totally different laws, although physicists sometimes talk that way — a mistake they might be able to avoid if they took philosophers more seriously." And as for the philosophers, the best that they can come up with is the anthropic principle — the notion that our particular universe appears the way it does by virtue of our presence as observers within it — a suggestion that has an uncomfortably tautological ring to it.
 

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 5, 2013 at 7:13 pm

btw, i copied and pasted that from the website i got the questions from: ht tp:  //io9. c om/ 5945801/8-philosophical-questions-that-well-never-solve

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 5, 2013 at 7:22 pm

So.... (I won't post the elaborated-form of the questions anymore, I'm feeling lazy)....
 
Breece,
 
1. I am acknowledging that things DO exist now. There is no nothingness in the universe--that's the point. WHY? It didn't have to be this way.
 
2. Reword please, when you get the chance. It sounds an awful lot like you're speaking in circles.
 
3. I agree with you there--but what's your logic?
 
4. LOL, nice logic:)
 
5. The definition of death isn't concrete--the absence of life?? Couldn't it be our transition from Earth to Heaven? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just sayin'..... Also, the question was meant more like, "Is there an afterlife?" I think you know what I meant:)
 
6. Agreed. (I believe only God can be objective, that is why He is infinitely wise.)
 
7. So the best morals are morals that change? I disagree. I think the best morals are morals that NEVER change but last throughout time. Universal morals. 
 
8. Numbers are things that math teachers abuse and use to make my head hurt:)

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Breece6 replied...
Mar. 6, 2013 at 7:04 am

RarelyJaded:
 
I keep finding ways to sneak on here, but I'm just sayin', don't be surprised if I disappear for a while.  *whispers* I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.
 
Anyways,
 
1. The same question can go the opposite way, why would there be nothing rather than something?  Why would the laws of physics be different than they are?  
 
And furthermore things don't work together perfectly, people who look at the universe and say "that's so perfect!" are optimists.  But not necessarily right.  The universe is plenty messy, just because stars and nebulae look pretty to you doesn't mean they're not teeming with "imperfection".
 
Furthermore how does one even define perfectness or lack thereof on such a scale?  What makes the Aurora or spiral galaxies so good and perfect?  What would make them imperfect?
 
At that point it's less science and more of us judging God's handiwork.
 
2. That's because it is circular :)  Y'see if it's real then the reality of it being real would be really real to the reality inside of the realness.  
 
Just be real dawg.
 
3. We can't know anything 100% sure, keep that in mind.  That being said, the intrinsic evidence (I feel like I have a choice) seems to point towards free will.  The extrensic evidence (the laws of physics would dictate the universe beforehand) seem to contradict this.
 
However I disagree with this contradiction, I even believe to a certain extent that everything in the universe is "pre-determined". 
 
I just believe that free will existing is one of the things that was pre determined :)
 
4. STOP YELLLINGGGGG
 
5. Yeah, I was being a [quote=rarelyjaded]smart a.ss[quote/]
 
:P
 
6. STOP YE-... oh.
 
7. I disugeree respectivedly my good ma'am. 
 
"Love your neighbor as thyself" - Besides loving God, that's the only moral that's constant in my book.
 
Everything else is open to debate.  And subsequently, change.
 
8. If numbers are things that make your head hurt, then radicals are the DEVIL HIMSELF.

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RarelyJadedThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:20 am

Thanks for answering the eight hardest questions in the universe :P I think we've made real progress for humanity!


STOP YELLING AT ME!!!!! [quote=breece] :P

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WarriorPuellaThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 17, 2013 at 2:51 pm

I know this is an old thread.  Sorry.
 
1. As my dad would say, “Nature abhors a vacuum.”  I realize that nature is technically something and thus kind of contradicts the question, but...I dunno.  Seems like it’d be sort of pointless to have nothing.

2. Yes.  My characters are very real to me, but I have also taught them that they are “just” characters in a book.  I would think that every creator would have that much decency.  At least I hope so. ;-)

3. I don’t remember who said this on another thread, but the fact that I am able to think that I have free will verifies that I do.

4. I would like to think so.  I tend to doubt quite a bit, but this article did a lot for my belief: h t t p://www.everystudent.c om/features/isthere.html

5. I believe that the soul goes on in different forms of life (i.e. a person can be reincarnated to another person, or can remain a spirit and still influence people), so, in a sense, yes.

6. No.  You can, perhaps, imagine another person’s perspective, but you cannot be objective as a human.

7. Loyalty to that which you believe to be good and true.  For me, this means friends, family, self, country, ideals as found in the Constitution, other ideals, and God.  Unlike Breece, I believe that morals must be inflexible unless your belief system changes, in which case they too will change.

8. Numbers are symbols used to represent the amount of something.
~WarriorPuella

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 17, 2013 at 5:29 pm

thanks!!!! <3

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 17, 2013 at 5:30 pm

 
I admit, RarelyJaded, these are some tough questions XD. But I'll give them my best shot.
 
1. My answer would be because it's impossible. Even nothing is a concept, and a concept is something.
 
2. If the question is to whether or not reality as we observe it is an illusion or not (because obviously there has to be a real reality somewhere according to my answer to question one), then I would have to say that yes, it is. This all ties back to the answer to question number 4.
 
3. Yes, this also ties back to question number 4.
 
4. Yes. It's called the Transcendental Argument. It's the argument that without God (the Christian God), we would have no justification for knowledge, science, morality, laws of logic, personal identity, reliable memory, reliable senses and all those other preconditions of intelligibility. Dr. Jason Lisle in his book "The Ultimate Proof of Creation: Resolving the Origins Debate" explains this argument quite thoroughly. Here's a quick rundown of the book:
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In other words, there is either the Christian God, or there is the inability to know anything. In even simpler words, that’s: Christian God or Nonsense.
 
5. Yes, because there must be the Christian God and he promises it.
 
6. Um...no. It actually kinda depends on how you define: objective. You cannot experience the world around you without first assuming (having a bias) that your senses are reliable.
 
7. The Christian God's moral system. This of course ties into the answer to number 5...again. According to the Transcendental Argument, God and Good cannot be separated, therefore God's Moral System and "Best" cannot be separated.
 
8. Numbers are unchanging abstract immaterial concepts just like laws of logic and uniformity of nature.
 
~ Doctorbug
Sorry I haven't been around a lot, I've been having philosophy phobia lately :P. Have no idea why :/

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DoctorbugThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 17, 2013 at 5:32 pm

Sorry, I didn't notice this was an old thread...*chew on nails*

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm

'S okay :) not that old

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Quantum1.0This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 20, 2013 at 1:56 pm

So I'm not going to really be able to solve these, but I'll give you some responses based on a hodgepodge of logic and personal opinion.
 
1. Why not? If there weren't anything we wouldn't be here to wonder about something. Also as there is no real nothingness in the universe there is something everywhere. I am under the opinion that it is likely the multiverse has always existed and always will exist.
 
2. Is our universe real? At least as a concept it is real. How else can we define reality but by what we percieve?
 
3. Do we have free will? I doubt it. Our brains must follow the same laws of physics and chemistry as everything else in the universe. On the other hand I have the illusion of free will and as a society we must at least pretend that free will exists or else we have no reason for anybody to accept responsibility for their actions.
 
4. Does God exist? He might. He might not. I operate under the assumption that he doesn't as there are other theories for the way the universe works that at least have mote potential for real, observable proof.
 
5. Is there life after death? No, our consciousness is just a complicated phenomenom arising from our brain - which dies with us (of course I can't back this up, but I don't really believe that we have some sort of external soul).
 
6. Can you really experience anything objectively? No.
 
7. What is the best moral system? Our own consciences combined with peer pressure (this includes religion if necessary, however I don't believe in some sort of higher moral law. Right and wrong aren't universal concepts. They're just how society and our evolutionarily evolved instincts define things)
 
8. What are numbers? Ideas of humans used to help describe the world and other abstract concepts.

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SuperFloreeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 20, 2013 at 6:05 pm

1. Dictionary-wise, the word something means "some thing; a certain undetermined or unspecified thing" or "a person or thing of some value or consequence". Since nothing fits into this definition, where there is nothing, there is something.
 
2. I'm going back to the dictionary. Real: "existing or occurring as fact; actual rather than imaginary, ideal, or fictitious". And now, Imagination: "
the faculty of imagining, or of forming mental images or concepts of what is not actually present to the senses. "
 
Now then, I'm going to go to the least expected place you'd expect me  to go to: South Park. They had an episode similar to this (with, of course, something ridiculous behind it). Stan falls into depression becaus everything he sees looks like literal sh.it to him. Then these people tell him it's because that is how the world really is, and everyone else is just seeing an illusion. As stupid as this may be, it does show that maybe our universe and what we see around us isn't real.
 
However, as another person stated, the 'concept' is there. Going back to a different South Park episode, terrorists try to bomb our imagination. Yup, I'm not kidding.
 
However, this can show us that what we say is in our 'imagination' is 'real'. It says not present to the senses, but the thing is, if you can imagine it, then it is there, since you can smell or see or hear it. The concept is there, so it's there.
 
This is how I think: Something is only imaginary if we don't bother to think it's real, but if we do think it's real, we had just then made it real, by thinking about it ourselves and therefore letting us see, smell, hear, feel, or taste it.
 
3. But of course. We all conciously make free-willed desisions in the moment. Even if something makes us make that desicion, it's still in our free-will. Why? Because we chose to follow the thing forcing us to choose whateverness. Even if we fight it and you can't overcome it no matter what, you still in the end technically submitted to it within your power.
 
4. Look atht he real vs imaginary thing.
 
5. Again, number 2 dude.
 
6. With a conciounce (I can't spell) comes opinions, so no.
 
7. Adaptable. I don't care what, but it has to be adaptable and fair.
 
8. They are things created by man to make sense of the world. End of story.

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Jade.I.AmThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 20, 2013 at 6:13 pm

thanks guuuuyz :)

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SuperFloreeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 20, 2013 at 6:15 pm

no prob~ im really bored ^^:

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Apr. 21, 2013 at 11:35 am

Okay, I'll give this a shot. :P
 
1. Why is there something rather than nothing?
 
There has always been something, otherwise there could never be anything.
 
God has always existed and will continue to exist for ever.
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." (Revelation 22:13)
 
It is just hard for us to imagine there not being some sort of a beginning since we ourselves are created beings and everything we observe on this sin-corrupted Earth is born/created then dies/destroyed.
 


2. Is our universe real?
 
I've never seen a shred of evidence to prove otherwise.
 
We live and experience, which is all very tangible and real.
 


3. Do we have free will?
 
Absolutely.
Every choice we make (even if it was "forced" on us), was still our choice.
 
And in relation to religion:
I heard an interesting analogy the other day...
"We're like rats in a maze and God is watching us run it. And while God can see the start of the maze, the cheese at the end, and all the choices we make to get there, it is still the rat's decision where to go."
 


4. Does God exist?
 
Yes. We know this from His Word, the Bible.
 


5. Is there life after death?
 
For the righteous.
 
For the wicked there is just death after death (though they will be raised from the dead just like the righteous before they are destroyed once and for all).
 


6. Can you really experience anything objectively?
 
Objectivity just means, "judgment based on observable phenomena and uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices."
 
So can we ever experience things without it being affected by our emotions? ... not always. But I like to think that there are some things (especially in relation to God's truths) that we can.
 
Sometimes we will make choices based on principle and what is right, not how it will make us feel.
 


7. What is the best moral system?
 
Obeying the word of God, even if it goes against the common rules of the day.
 
Just think of Daniel's three friends: Hannniah (Shadrach), Mishael (Shadrach), and Azariah (Abednego).
Instead of following the decree to bow down to Nebuchadnezzar's idol, they suffered the consequence of death rather than disobeying God's commandments.
As a result, they were saved from the fiery furnace and helped manifest the power and glory of God.
 
Of course, we can't obey God by our own power, we have to work with Jesus and allow him to change our sinful nature.
 


8. What are numbers?
 
Didn't realize that this was a philosophical question...
 
Well, I guess they're units given to objects that identify their quantity.
 
 
God bless. ♥

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