I have been!! ... Have been trying to. You said we are bound by the old law. I said we were not. You said "give me a verse". I gave you fifty! Can you please ask me one specific question at a time, I'm getting confused too (about what we're talking about). And please ignore the sabbath thing. That was stu.pid:P
You're too kind. :D
I am actually a Seventh-Day Adventist. It's technically a Protestant Christian denomination, but we're quite divergent from mainstream Christianity.
Go ahead and do a Google search if you want to learn more, or feel free to just ask me. :)
Oh, that's fine. :)
It's just usually when people say "Sabbath" they are referring to Saturday.
I'd like to know: do you keep the Sunday similar to how I keep Saturday (no buying or selling, not watching secular TV or listening to secular music, etc.)?
Also, I'm sorry if you feel that you're not being understood.
This question may be ironic, but... could you just please clarify if you feel that I'm not understanding you, or just other people in general?
Thanks, and God bless. <3
ok i'm basically right between christianity and Judia.sm but i don't go to a church we meet as an assembly of four to five families. we don't really belong to a denomataion. we're all on at the same time:)
Half.note: I... No. I go to church, though... *coughs* Anyways, I am confused why you were talking about old vs. new covenant. I don't think it's contradictory to believe that although the new covenant sets us free from judgment by works we are still expected to keep gods word. Jesus says if we love him, we must obey his words, that he didn't come to eradicate the law, he even talked about which law is most important to keep.
Not "why"... When. Sorry
Pb: you never did respond about one thing... I found the quotes about the new covenant (I even helpfully bolder it for you;) ) ... And it applies to right now, not in the future. Were THOSE the passages people quote at you that you think is wrong??
Muslims follow many of the laws that Orthodox J.ews follow today. I don't think they tend to be stricter though. Dietary laws, for instance, are slightly more lenient for Muslims than Orthodox J.ews.
he said which one's are the greatest. but off of all those branches all the commands. so that means if you love him you will keep his commands:)
destinee! i was worried you weren't responding
hope i din't ofend you:)
Pb: yeaaahhhhh. See, I know that. What's your point?
I said what you said almost verbatim...
If I understand you correctly, I think I agree. :)
I would like to make it clear that no one, not even people in the Old Testament times, were saved by the Old Covenant. We are all saved through Jesus, not keeping the law.
However, you are correct, if we love Jesus, we will obey the Old Covenant laws. They are still as important today as when God first gave them.
In fact, a person's conversion experience is similar to the transition between the Old and new Covenant.
When people first try following God, they make a promise to God similar to the one that the Israelites made to God at Sinia. A new convert, through their own power, will try to follow the Law, and ultimately fail. Then they will learn to depend fully on Jesus and allow God to make a new heart in them-- which is the New Covenant experience.
We are saved when we rely upon God's promises to us, not our promises to him.
God bless. ♥
Yay!! Thank you half.note. *emerges from the dark corner of my own incompetence to explain* lol. And everyone else: I am 16, I am a twi-hard, and I put more whip cream in my hot chocolate than hot chocolate. I am by no means a bible scholar. So if I say something that makes no sense, know that I know what I mean in my head and that's good enough for me! :) *retreats into dark corner again*
Haha, you think that if any of us were Bible scholars we would be wasting our time by talking some sense into stubborn teenagers?
Rule #1 of the P&T forum: You don't have to be a scholar, just try you best to explain your beliefs.
And #2: Try to remain patient. :)
God bless. <3
Patience... Is a virtue, I have none *.*
Don't be too hard on yourself.
Not everyone is a saint like me. ;)
LOL... Off topic. Sorry guys. It IS almost midnight....
PB: you STILL haven't answered my question:( *sniffles* please, I need enlightenment! :)
sorry i went to bed i was too tired from all my homework:)
ok here's the verse you were refering to i believe:
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
He is saying that when you follow the commandments you are loving the L-rd your G-d. and loving your neighbor as yourself.
let me ask you a question. how does a father know his son loves him? he obeys him. right? so if we love G-d then we ought to do his commands.right? something to think about.