This is a tuffy! This is me free typing. I'm am just gunna babble about this topic until I feel satisfied.
I don't really know where to begin! The beginning is a nice place, if I knew what the beginning is! Well, I guess I do know what the beginning is: In the Beginning, there was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God. Seemingly irrelevant at the moment. But it does help answer the question 'Can God be evil or have bad intentions'. To me, this question if full of flaws right from the get-go. What is evil? Evil is anything against God's will. When is an intention bad? When it isn't God's will. Why do I say that? Because God is good.
The question is now, can God contradict Himself? I think not! I feel that a contradiction is a form of a lie. A falsehood. Contradiction and God, no. God can not lie/ bear falsehoods, therefore, God can not contradict Himself. But this doesn't explain why he would kill!
This is why its so important to read the Bible from cover to cover! I'm doing the same. I'm in Leviticus right now. I'm not gunna lie, it is BORING. I hear Numbers is worse in that way. Anyway, we will find that God's tolerance level is very small. Only out of mercy does He keep us alive. I mean, the wages of sin is death!! We, literally, don't deserve to breathe!! This answers the question "Can God justify his kills". This is sort of a bad question, see. God doesn't justify his killing, his killing is the justification against us!
Just lost my train of thought.
GRAAA. Well this is annoying. How do you guys cope with this?
Well, expect more tomorrow.
No worries. Everyone goes through their moments of doubt. I've had them.
It's good to just ask questions and pray a lot!
I hope I can be of help. :)
I thought Leviticus was pretty good. I've always found the temple and sacrificial ceremonies interesting.
Hey, if you have time, you should compare Leviticus 26 with Daniel 4. (Works best with the King James)
The parallels in phrases and imagery is just more proof that the Bible is inspired.
God bless. <3
Contemplator: the question itself is a contradiction? Lol, why does everyone always say stuff like that? :)
Rarely Jaded: Maybe its because we want to sound like we know what were talking about, but we really don't. :P
I really don't know what I'm talking about.
half.note: I will, if I ever remember.
Haha. When you play the triangle-peg game at Cracker Barrel, do you find yourself an ignora-moose?
Contemplator: lol. When you play the triangle-peg game at cra.cker Barr.el do you find yourself an ignora.moose?? (For some reason that got caught in the filter). O.o
RarelyJaded: Nah, I'm purty dern smart. :P
Normally, I get all but two pegs off the triangle.
and this has to do with angry God?:)
oops i meant angry G-d:)
Well... Maybe if god decided to destroy one of the pegs, then it would be relatable...
Hey half.note! It's been far too long since me and you talked. Probably cause we disagree so little. :)
Anyways, I think you're largely right. Liberal scholars who arrogantly proclaim that the OT is horrible because of its laws are simply refusing to do actual scholarship. Ex: the slavery system was for the benefit of the homeless, similar to the indentured servants of early America (not to mention they automatically got set free every 7 years!); the "taking of women" after battle was not r.ape but marriage, a way to adopt outsiders into Israelite culture; the verse in Deuteronomy telling men to cut off a woman's hand if she grabs somebody's g.enittals is actually a mistranslation that should say to shave her no-no square, which was apparently a sign of shame at the time; OT law is full of the same stuff J.esus said, which many people overlook; etc, etc.
However, I've never really gotten a straight answer from pastors regarding some of the commands God gives directly--ones that simply can't be explained away.
Like what? Sorry to intrude :)
I'll just post one for the time being. It's possibly my least favorite Bible verse of all time.
Then said Samuel, "Bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites." And Agag came unto him delicately. And Agag said, "Surely the bitterness of death is past."
And Samuel said, "As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women." And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal. (1 Samuel 15:32-33)
Why is this your least favorite?
i second jade's statement:)
I mean, you can dislike whatevah you want:). I'm just saying there's way more... Disturbing.... Things in the bible. God wanted Samuel to kill Agag because of what he did to his people. He was in no way innocent:P
It's not that it's disturbing. It's pathetic. The man begged for his life like a child, and his "Heavenly Father," who had a perfect chance to turn the guy around, had Samuel chop him to pieces while he undoubtedly screamed and begged for mercy. Why didn't he get it?
Verses calling for the destruction of "all that lives" etc. in whole villages can be explained away as mere idioms or meaningless since military strategy at the time left only soldiers present in the forts the Israelites wiped out.
It's just so easy to picture the scene this verse describes. It makes me wanna shake my head at Samuel's shallow cruelty, until I remember that it's the God I love who told him to do it.
.... I'll pray about it:)