Just wondering who here believes in evolution and who doesn's and why. I will NOT express my opinion UNLESS asked a question.
I have a question. What is your view on evolution? :)
I personally really don't care about whether it is accurate or not. As a Christian, it is my opinion that it doesn't matter if God made the world in 6 days or 17 billion years, He sent Jesus for everyone, and that's what's important.
I don't know where I sit with it. I have enough evidence to believe in the Christian god, and the bible said the earth was created in 6 days.... Okay, so I don't believe humans evolved in anyway, but I think animals could have. The bible says we were created in God's own image, so unless God is a monkey.... Lol. That's why I sort-of-not-really-maybe believe in evolution. What's YOUR opinion??
The Bible should be our source and authority on all things, so I'm a literal creationist, and I don't believe in evolution.
In fact, I believe quite the opposite. I believe man is de-evolving. People at the beginning of the world (roughly 6000 years ago) were taller, smarter, and lived much longer.
Why else would the Bible talk about how long people lived and even give exact numbers?
What about you? Do you believe in evolution, packerbacker?
(By the way, is your screen name a twist of backpacker, or am I just imagining things? o.O)
I don't believe in evolution because I'm a Christian and I believe that what the Bible says is completely true. Also, even if I wasn't born again, I might not believe in it because it's just so out there, you know? Like, if monkeys evolved into men, why do we still have monkeys? Also I read in a science book that some scientists believe hyenas evolved into whales. Come on.
I'm a literal creationist. I beleive in the Bible, and the Bible clearly states that God created the world in 6 days.
The reason why I hold this belief so firm, even though it seems so trivial, is because disregarding it would mean disregarding the first book in the Bible.
no my screen name is packerbacker because i'm a packer fan. i will wait to express my opinion until several other people have replied:)
It looks like I'm the first person in here to post that they "believe" in Evolution.
*Puts on protective helmet*
"Believe" is a strong word, but I'll give. Sure, I "believe" in evolution.
Mostly because the facts point towards it, as for it's impact on my religious beliefs, I choose not to let it affect them.
If God was going to tell us how he created the world and then provide evidence to the contrary, it proves (or at least supports the notion) that God did not in fact write said book.
In other words I don't believe the Bible is infallible.
I believe the Bible is infallible. I don't believe it all is 100% literal. To say we can interpret exactly what God means in every way is a dangerous assumption, and I think Christians can really embarrass themselves and hurt their religion when they freak out about stuff that doesn't really matter. The Bible doesn't say that the creationists will go to heaven and the evolutionists won't; it says those who follow Jesus will go to heaven and those who don't won't. That's the message we should be preaching, to me.
i don't want to expose my beliefs quite yet:)
RedsFan23: so you believe that Jews won't be saved. after all isn't the tribe of Benjamin and the tribe of Judah His chosen people.
i don't want to exp.ose my beli.efs quite yet.:)
Reds.Fan23: are you saying the J.ews won't be sav.ed after all aren't the tri.be of J.udah and the t.ri.be of Ben.jam.en his chosen pe.ople?
I agree with RedsFan. The Bible isn't infallible and claiming we understand every word of every verse of it is dangerous. Evolution makes more sense to me, but that doesn't mean I don't believe in Adam and Eve. Somehow, it all fits together, and if God hasn't explained how then He must have a reason. Until He does I don't feel like there's much point in bickering over it. I talk about the Garden of Eden in sunday school and natural selection in science class and don't freak out about either of them.
Artgirl: The theory doesn't say that man evolved from monkeys. It says that man and monkeys shared an ancestor a long time ago. Asking why we still have monkeys is like asking, "Why does my family still have cousins now that I'M here?" Same goes for whales and hyenas- they shared a common ancestor and the family tree split a long time ago.
Oh, okay. I got excited there for a minute. I thought I had a fellow backpacker on here.
Also, I have no idea who the packers are. Basketball? Baseball? What city do they represent.
#clueless about sports that isn't hockey
I respectively disagree. The Bible is indeed infallible.
And doesn't it tell us that "Ask, and it shall be given unto you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." (Matthew 7:7)
Why would God give us a book we can't understand?
Anyways, I'm not looking for an argument, just thought I should say something.
God bless. ♥
I agree with the infallability of the Bible- it is God's word after all. But how we humans understand the Bible isn't always infallable. The Bible does say that God's ways our not our ways, and to take every verse literallycan, as Imagine said, be "dangerous" (kind of a pun on his name, actually). Maybe God did create the Earth in 6 days. Maybe he didn't. I'm not at all say that half.note is incapable of defending her young-earth creat.ionist views, but there are definitely some Christians who can't stand up to any argument at all by an evolutionist. I think it just discredits Chritianity in general when we focus on petty issues like these and not the actual message of the New Testament.
RedsFan: I hear you. I see where your coming from, but this stance may prove to be... difficult if the young people of today read Genesis. Think about it. Young Joe learns about evolution in school. He is there 5 days a week, for 9 months. And then when Jesus of the bible is introduced, Young Joe sees only a fictional character in a fictional book. Why is the book fictional? Because its pumped full of fictional stories such as the earth being created in 6 days.
Genesis literally means 'beginning'. And, Bible is a book. All books have their roots in the beginning. You cant tell a the story of Man and God from the end and work towards the beginning. If you do so, the audiance will become bored and confused. Start in the beginning, and the outcome will be different. Show the logical back up for Genesis, and we have a plausible story for the audiance. The audiance are the unreached people of the world.
I think I'm just gonna quietly agree with Redsfan and then back away...
RedsFan23: i agree with all your posts but the last one. you say we shouldn't focus on these subjects and just focus on the Bible. well imagine someone like me and you goes into a science class and gets humiliated because we can't even defend our own faith. and by the way why only the new testament?
RarelyJaded: you don't sound like your very firm in your position but that's okay we are all like that on certain topics. you say that humans could've evolved. can i ask you a question? in science a cell cannot get more complex and can only diminish which goes agiast the thoery of evolution. because the theory states that we came form a simple celled organism in a pre-whatever(can't think of the name:)) soup that this smple single cell organism evolved into complex life forms which disproves the theory all together.
Half.note: agreed 100% they had a higher oxygen levels thus reptiles were larger i.e. dinousars. but your second post not so much. packers are the american football team that represent the city of green bay wisconsin:) I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you the Bible is indeed fallible. Matthew 7:7 is talking about blessings form our heavenly father. and he gives us a book that we can't fully understand so that we can search and find greater meaning in his word. we can all look at ephesians 1 or the book of revalation or even the creation tory in genesis 1 and get literlly millions of different perspectives. i'm not trying to argue just wanted to make myself clear on the matter.
artgirl1999: lol i agree with you.
contemplator: agreed 100% :)
eceerb9/breece6/timoderator:): i'm sorry to here that:( he did tell us how he created the world. he spoke and it was done. read Genesis 1.
and my view on this(ya'll asked for it:)) well here it goes i think that evolution is the dimbest fairy tale of told in the history of mankind which is day 6 of creation of course. it is a state religionn built off of no facts whatsoever. fossils only take less than 100 years to form. there has been no geologic coloumn found in the world. there has been human footprints found in the same layer as dinosuar footprints. all the embryo drawings where drawn and made up. and all of this was proven wrong in the last one hundred years but yet very few know. well that's my view:)
sorry for the grammer mistakes:)
I think what Breece was trying to say that God didn't write the Bible---man did. The book of Genesis, to take your example, is generally believed to have been written by Moses (though some scholars think it was written by someone else in the 6th and 5th centuries BC, but that's besides the point). I think that's where the confusion lay? And man is certainly fallible, so the Bible perhaps might have some fallibilities as well. Personally, I'm not completely sure as to whether or not the Bible is infallible, but I think that was where Breece was going.
What do you say about the general rise in height and life expectancy (and perhaps intelligence haha) for the past while? And when I say while, I mean since there have been records and/or archeological evidence, which has been, suffice to say, quite a while. I'm just curious to know.
Actually, to you and the other creationists here, I'm curious as to how you rationale the examples of evolution (or "evolution" is how you might see it) in the recent past (recent past, as in human records, observations, et cetera).
give me an example and i'll prove you wrong. challenge?