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Imaginedangerous posted this thread...
Dec. 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm

There are two holidays that are universal throughout all Christian denominations (and Christian cultures), arguably the two most important dates on the Christian calendar: Christmas and Easter. My question is this- why did Christmas become so big, commercialized and secularly thriving, while Easter has not? We don't have an Easter shopping season, or Easter music on the radio. Any little kid will tell you that the Easter Bunny isn't nearly as important as Santa Claus. Why is that? Any theories?

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Dec. 26, 2012 at 3:19 am

 
Presents.
 
Enough said. :P
 
 
 
Actually, knowing me, you should realize that three words are never enough.
Sorry, but I think you have another rant coming. :)
 
Anyways, I don't care for either holidays since both are based off pagan traditions, but I can appreciate their religious intentions.
 
I go to a Catholic school, so I know that they make a big deal about both holidays.
Every week leading up to Christmas we light the advent candles in a large school assembly, and we always have a Christmas mass.
But Easter isn't forgotten either. Catholics celebrate all the days leading up to Easter, including the 40 days of Lent, Shrove Tuesday, and Ash Wednesday.
 
As to why the secular world focuses more on Christmas, I will repeat my earlier statement:  Presents. Everyone is always out shopping for each other, so the consumer industry takes advantage of that.
 
I just think we shouldn't focus our attentions on these single days of the year. Why can't we celebrate Jesus' birth and death all year 'round? Why can't we constantly be singing Christmas and Easter songs?
 
Ah well, people will follow their traditions.
 
And I must admit, this Christmas has been a lot of fun. Lots of good food, and the best of company.
Plus, I scored a Beatles' album (Rubber Soul), a Beatles' movie (Yellow Submarine), Beatles Trivial Pursuit, and Beatles Monopoly.
I'll give you three guesses at who my favourite band is. ;)
 
Haha, anyways...
 
Joyeux Noel, mes amis! :D
(Merry Christmas, my friends)

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JunieSparrow replied...
Dec. 26, 2012 at 9:22 am

Half.note, I would never have guessed you like the Beatles.  xD 
 
I don't celebrate either Easter or Christmas.  They're both based on pagan holidays, as noted above.  The apostles didn't celebrate either one; in fact Easter wasn't established as a "Christian" holiday until the Council of Nicea in 325 AD.  It was derived from a fertility goddess celebration held around the same time as Passover.  Christmas supplemented the Roman holiday of Saturnalia and the Druidic Winter Solstice festivities. 
 
Presents are probably one reason for the commercialization of Xmas.  Also I suspect people are more in the mood for a party in midwinter than in spring.  Think about how New Year's is a big deal too.  It's dark and cold out, and then you go see people and have a good time. 
 

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Dec. 26, 2012 at 12:24 pm

Actually, Imagine, after seeing "Rise of the Guardians", I am of the opinion that the Easter Bunny is just as, if not more important than Santa Claus. =P I mean, the Easter Bunny has an AUSTRALIAN ACCENT, for Pete's sake! And he wears Celtic wrist-guards.
 
But, seriously. I celebrate Christmas, presents and all. My family jokes about Santa, but Jesus is the central part of our celebration.
For Easter, we call it "Resurrection Day". But I don't pound anyone who calls it Easter. And my church really makes a big deal out of both Christmas AND Easter.
 
 
Actually, I don't have a brilliant arguement. I'll just nod and agree with half.note.  Christmas is a bigger deal to people, because of the presents. And the cups of cheer. And the all round 'glowy' feeling that Christmas gives people. 
Easter has been made into a pastel-colored, fluffy holiday, that make people think Easter is for babies. Thus, people just pay more attention to Christmas.
 
And I LOVE Christmas. I really do. For lots of reasons. And like half.note, I'm not exactly complaining that I ended up with a violin shoulder-rest, a Crimson-Tide jacket, half a dozen gift-cards, and BOOKS. XD
 
*sigh* Okay. I have the feeling that this post seems random, mismatched, and disconnected. Whatever. Have a happy new year!

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Dec. 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm

I think it's the presents too- but mostly because retailers trying to make money by selling you presents make such a big deal about it.
 
And while we're discussing what we got, I received a laptop and a Mitt Romney Chia Pet. :)

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Dec. 31, 2012 at 1:37 pm

 
Sparrow:
 
I think you need to work on your deduction skills, then. ;)
Yano, I love the Beatles. They're awesome musicians and I grew up listening to them.
 
 
Bekah:
 
You got a "violin shoulder-rest"?
Sorry, but my family owns a music store and I play piano and ukulele as well as taking voice lessons, so my music radar went off when I saw this.
I'm assuming you play violin then, unless you just like the shoulder-rest as a bold fashion statement. :P
Haha, anyways, how long have you been playing?
 
And if we're talking about musical presents, I thank I've got you beat. I received a ukulele! Here's a link to what it looks like:
h ttp://w ww.newarkmusical.c om/images/Sku-006792.jpg
 
I also got two ukulele wall hangers. One for my new ukulele, and one for the kiwi ukulele I had bought for myself a few months ago.
It didn't end there, though, because I also got the ukulele song book and Coldplay piano book that I had asked my brother (who runs our family music store) to order for me.
 
*falls on the floor with happiness*
 
Yeah, this was definitely a fantastic Christmas. :D
 
 
Imagine:
 
"Mitt Romney Chia Pet"?
 
I'm still trying to figure out what on earth you're talking about...

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Jan. 1, 2013 at 1:20 am

My sister got a ukelele too. She was also overjoyed. She only knows three songs so far and I am very excited for her to learn more so I don't have to listen to 'Speak Now' (the Taylor Swift song) four times in a row. :)
 
You don't know what a Chia Pet is? Wikipedia it. Unless you're lazy or a huge fan of my random posts, in which case keep reading.
They were really popular in the 80's, but not so much any more. It's a terra cotta sculpture (usually shaped like an animal) that you put little seeds on (of a plant called chia, which kind of looks like bean sprouts). Then if you water it every day, the seeds sprout and it looks like the chia pet is growing hair. 
I a got chia pet. In the shape of Mitt Romney's head. I thought it was hilarious.

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Jan. 1, 2013 at 2:31 pm

half.note:
 
Yup, a violin shoulder-rest! I requested that for Christmas, much to the dismay of several younger family members who don't get asking for something useful for Christmas. =P  Anyway. yeah, I've been playing the violin for almost a year. I love it, but I'm not very good yet. XD But the shoulder rest has improved my playing a ton, and it's only been a week since Christmas!
I've played the piano since I was eight, though, and I'm in a youth community choir, which I enjoy a ton. Music means a lot to me!
 
WOW. That is one cool ukelele!! I got to fiddle with one once, when we were at a friend's house, and it was a lot of fun.  What's your favorite type of music to play on the ukelele? One of my younger brother's friends has a ukelele, and he's really funny on it. He'll try and play ANYTHING. =D

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jan. 2, 2013 at 5:11 am

 
Imagine:
 
Your sister obviously has good taste in musical instruments, though I'm still wondering about her taste in musical artists (#not a big fan of Swift).
 
Here's a link to the ukulele song book I got for Christmas:
h ttp://w ww.amazon.c a/Easy-Songs-Ukulele-Leonard-Corp/dp/1780382588
 
If you decide to purchase it, it's got a lot of awesome songs that I'm sure will add some variety to her music selections.
Some of my favourites in this book are "You Are My Sunshine", "Eight Days a Week", "All My Loving", and "Everyday".
 
Or follow this link for a site filled with awesome songs your sister can learn without need for purchase:
h ttp://w ww.alligatorboogaloo.c om/uke/tabs.html
 
Be sure to pass this on to your sister. Hope it helps. :)
 
 
And I decided not to Wikipedia Chia Pets because, yes, I am lazy, as well as being a fan of your random posts. I mean, you went through all that trouble of explaining it to me, so I just had to read it. :)
 
And now that I think about it, we may have had some Chia Pets when I was little. I recall thinking it was the best invention since sliced bread. :P
 
Hey, and since it's Mitt Romney themed, all the better. I was really upset when Romney didn't make office (and I'm not even American).
 
What about you? Romney or Obama? (I'm assuming Romney since you got such a kick out of seeing his head sprouting beans... Or is that part of the insult?)
 
Anyways, we should talk politics sometime. :)
 
 
Bekah:
 
Yeah, violin can be hard to learn. It takes a lot of work just to stop sounding like a dying cat.
I know this because my sister took violin when she was younger and she gave up on it because she didn’t like playing an instrument that sounds so horrible when you don’t know what you’re doing. But she recently revived her love for violin and wants to start taking lessons again.
Pray for me…
 
And I’ve been playing piano since I was six. So now that I’m fifteen… Well, it’s been a lot of years. I’m in level 6 of the Royal Conservatory, which means I could technically be teaching piano. Boy, I feel old.
 
I love to sing, too. I participate in church choir when it can be organized, and I do song service at church once a month. Not to mention my constant singing. God has blessed me with a good voice (which I am currently trying to strengthen by taking voice lessons), and I like to sing throughout the day.
 
I have the same love for music as you do.
 
Which is easy when your family owns a music store, your dad and two brothers teach guitar, and your sister-in-law teaches voice and piano.
Music runs in the family, in my case.
 
What about you? How did you get interested in music?
 
 
As for my favourite music to play on the ukulele, well, you can get a pretty good idea by reading my reply to Imagine above.
 
But generally, most of the songs I play on the ukulele are the songs I love listening to and was able to find sheet music for.
This mostly includes The Beatles, Coldplay, and Muse.
 
I also found some classic songs that I like to play. “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” and “You Are My Sunshine” are my favourite.
 
I even play a song from Spongebob Squarepants called “F.U.N.” The playing experience is just as the song title describes.
 
But, I must give credit to the song that got me interested in the ukulele in the first place. It’s a song called “Ram On” by Paul McCartney (my favourite Beatle).
It’s just a fantastic little uke song. Here’s a link to it on Youtube:
h ttp://w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=2Swl9Iqh6DQ
 
It was the first song I learned to play on the ukulele and I still love to play it. <3

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Jan. 2, 2013 at 7:17 pm

I'm a huge fan of Romney. I was pretty disappointed when he didn't win. (And if you want to talk politics, I spend a lot of time hanging out in the News and Issues forum. :)

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Jan. 3, 2013 at 3:31 pm

half.note:
 
Yeah, my violin playing still sounds pretty bad. But at least, because of my long-time interest in music, I've developed an ear for hearing whether something is in tune or not. So I can fix my tuning, or whatever. XD
 
Wow, you've been playing piano since you were six??? And you could techinically be teaching piano?? Nice! I have a friend who's been playing fiddle since she was seven, and she's awfully good. She's won state-level contests, and placed pretty high in regional contests. I've found that generally, the younger you are when you start playing, the better you'll be. It just kind of gets ingrained in your whole being, I guess. If that makes sense!
 
I've been interested in music for a long time.., gosh, I don't know how long! My paternal grandmother was a singer on stage, and in her later years she was choir director and soloist in her church. She even recorded a tape! (yeah, a tape... it was the eighties. XD)  My dad sang in the church choir. My maternal great-grandmother sang a lot.  But mainly, my parents just played a lot of recorded music for me and my siblings when we were younger. I've kind of grown up with it! And ever since I was little, my dad says I couldn't stop singing. I still can't. =D I sing all the time, so when my family moved from Montana, back down South, this past year, and I found a good youth community choir that two of my best friends were in, it was like... YES!!  It's been a ton of fun, and I even auditioned for and got a solo at one of the Christmas concerts! I was really excited.
 
For the record, I love The Beatles too. =D I haven't listened to a ton of their songs, but whenever I hear one, I can tell who it is, and I always like it. My family kind of has this joke with "Love Me Do". XD My dad can't stand it.

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half.noteThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jan. 18, 2013 at 6:11 pm

Hey, sorry it's taken me so long to reply back. I've had a couple sick days, and we're starting Finals at school, so it's been crazy busy.
 
 
Imagine:
 
Haha, okay.
And I'll try to stop by the News & Issues Forum when I have the time. Expect my posts within, well, at least the next year or so. :)
 
 
Bekah:
 
Oh, I'm sure you don't sound that bad. It takes some getting used to, but it seems like you're getting there. Violins don't have frets marking where to put your fingers like guitars do, so as long as you can hear if you're getting the right note or not, you've won half the battle.
 
I actually really love the violin, it's such a versatile instrument. It can create a mood of despair or tension or gladness. There's a lot you can do with it.
 
Also, I'm curious, do you take music theory along with violin?
 
 
"Ingrained in your whole being"... I like the sound of that, although truthfully, it's probably only because we've had so many years of practice.
But, surprisingly, playing an instrument from a young age can also serve as a disadvantage, because when you're young it's easier to pick up bad habits that become hard to break as you get older.
 
 
Anyways, your musical back ground sounds similar to mine. Basically: it just runs in the family.
 
My dad has also recorded lots of albums. He mostly does scripture songs. He takes a Bible verse and writes music to go along with it. He even wrote a scripture song for me on my last birthday. Habakkuk 2:1-4. :D
He is also in the finishing stages of recording an album of songs he wrote about his life and experiences.
He's not famous or anything, but he's an excellent musician.
 
 
And I'm glad that you found what sounds like a great choir. What sort of music do you perform? Where do you perform it?
 
 
Okay, instant respect when I heard you're a fan of the Beatles. They are just amazing musicians. I have like, four Beatles' t-shirts and know pretty much all of their songs.
I can give you some song recommendations if you like. It's all kind of based on personal preference, but the Beatles have songs for everyone, so just tell me what sort of music you like, and maybe I can point you in the right direction. :)
 
Yeah, and Love Me Do isn't their greatest song, in my opinion. But maybe that's just because I grew up hearing it, so it's kind of old news for me. But I do like lots of the songs on Abbey Road, Revolver, Rubber Soul, and the White Album.
 
 
Well, nice talking music with you. :)

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