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Euthiination posted this thread...
Sept. 24, 2012 at 11:10 pm

I'm curious to see what teens think of religion for the most part nowadays. If you could include your gender and age that would be good too, so I can collect some data. 
Discuss what you believe in, even the most abstract thing. 

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Breece6 replied...
Sept. 25, 2012 at 1:20 pm

That's a kinda vague question.  Personally I am what I consder a nihilistic Christian, meaning that I don't believe anything can be known absolutely, but that from the evidence I gather my conclusion is Christianity at the moment.  
I'm 15 and male, but again if you could elaborate the question a little it might help.

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Euthiination replied...
Sept. 25, 2012 at 4:51 pm

I'm mostly curious to see how religion these days compares to religion in the past, relative to having a faith as opposed to not having a faith. 

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beachychick replied...
Sept. 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm

I come from a big family of mormons, catholics and presbyterians- so everyone in my family has a different idea about religion ;) I'm what I guess you could call a liberal Christian. I'm pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, etc. I also believe in God, pray, and follow the biblical principals to the best of my abilities(: Oh yeah, I'm a thirteen year old girl

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CollinF replied...
Sept. 26, 2012 at 6:18 pm

I think things aren't so different as most people would have ya believe. The world's always had its devoted and its doubters. 
Personally, I have a very high view of religion. Life is like a fairy tale, except it's true and experiential. "Skeptic" people who go around mocking people on Youtube and scoffing at Old Testament Laws they scarcely understand are . . . I'm tempted to say idiots, but that's not quite the right word, as some of them are marginally intelligent. Fools, is the word the Bible uses.

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half.note replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 11:37 am

Well, my religion is my life. :)
Or, I guess another way to say it is that God is my life. ;)
I'm a 15-year-old female, and a Seventh-Day Adventist (Protestant Christian).
Like I said before, my religion is everything to me. I know that this life on Earth won't last so I try to keep my priorities focussed on God.
I'm a sinner now, and I know that only Jesus can change me and bestow eternal life.
At the moment, I won't bore you with the specifics of my religion, but I will tell you the more important aspects of Seventh-Day Adventism.
We believe in the regular Christian stuff: Jesus, the Bible, heaven, etc.
But I think the belief we have that separates us from any other religion or Christian denomination is the seventh-day Sabbath. The Sabbath starts at sunset on Friday night and continues until sunset on Saturday night. Basically, Saturday is the Sabbath.
We go to church Saturday morning, and throughout the Sabbath day we try to focus on God. We don't buy, sell, or work on the Sabbath.  And we don't entertain ourselves with secular television or music.
It's a day blessed and sanctified by God when he created the world.
I'll leave it at that for now, but if you want, you can look up the Seventh-Day Adventist church on Wikipedia.
And if you have any questions or would like to know more, feel free to ask me.
God bless. <3

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Euthiination replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm

And what if they are educated and have read their facts? Would they be fools then? 

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CollinF replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm

Well, I misspoke a bit there. Idiot is a strong word; I shouldn't have thrown it out there. My point is that foolishness isn't a matter of brain size or education, but a matter of humility--of the heart.
Logic is extremely useful and I personally believe it favors belief in religion (the Orthodox Christian one, to be exact), but I think it has its flaws. A lunatic might tell you that everything that happens in his life is the result of his noisy neighbor tormenting him to make him miserable. In fact, he may present a very reasonable case for us to believe him. We certainly can't disprove his sentiments. But why do we laugh in his face rather than nod in agreement? Because we realize that there's more to the world than just this crackpot's not-really-that-annoying neighbor. His insanity lies in his refusal to take the fulness of life into view to begin with, rather than honing in on one tiny piece of his existence and revolving  everything around that. This is the primary atheist fallacy. They never open their eyes to the fulness of what it is to be human--to experience these crazy beings we interact with and this crazy life we live, even the things which we cannot see, but that all humanity from Ancient Babylon to Uncle Sam has sensed was all around us, if primarily above us.
This problem has been fuling the debate on miracles since there was a debate on miracles. Atheists say miracles are impossible, so natural explanations must be sufficient, while theists believe miracles can happen and thus admit that a miracle may have occurred, though it's unlikely.
You see, some of the smartest men to walk the face of the planet have laughed at the idea of a God and communicating with Him through religion. Their problem was/is not that they are unintelligent or ignorant, but that they are narrow-minded fools. Some very intelligent people have gone kooky over conspiracy theories not so different from that of the man with the noisy neighbor, and I would argue this is the same ailment which atheists and those who scoff at religion suffer from. When the poor maniac's priest suggests to him that perhaps it was simply coincidence that he stubbed his toe at work that day, the maniac smirks at him. "I have no need of that hypothesis." (To use a very famous quote.)

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half.note replied...
Sept. 28, 2012 at 10:18 am

Amen, Collin!
This made me think of one of my favourite Ellen White quotes:
"Men of the greatest intellect cannot understand the mysteries of Jehovah as revealed in nature. Divine inspiration asks many questions which the most profound scholar cannot answer. These questions were not asked, supposing that we could answer them, but to call our attention to the deep mysteries of God, and to make men know that their wisdom is limited; that in the common things of daily life there are mysteries past the comprehension of finite minds; that the judgment and purposes of God are past finding out, His wisdom unsearchable. If He reveals Himself to man, it is by shrouding Himself in the thick cloud of mystery.
God's purpose is to conceal more of Himself than He makes known to man. Could men fully understand the ways and works of God, they would not then believe Him to be the infinite One. He is not to be comprehended by man in His wisdom, and reasons, and purposes. "His ways are past finding out" [Romans 11:33]. His love can never be explained upon natural principles. If this could be done, we would not feel that we could trust Him with the interests of our souls. Skeptics refuse to believe, because with their finite minds they cannot comprehend the infinite power by which God reveals Himself to men. Even the mechanism of the human body cannot be fully understood; it presents mysteries that baffle the most intelligent.

Yet because human science cannot in its research explain the ways and works of the Creator, men will doubt the existence of God, and ascribe infinite power to nature. God's existence, His character, His law, are facts that all the reasoning of men of the highest attainments cannot controvert. They deny the claims of God, and neglect the interest of their souls, because they cannot understand His ways and works. Yet God is ever seeking to instruct finite men that they may exercise faith in Him and trust themselves wholly in His hands. Every drop of rain or flake of snow, every spire of grass, every leaf and flower and shrub, testifies of God. These little things so common around us, teach the lesson that nothing is beneath the notice of the infinite God, nothing too small for His attention."

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Breece6 replied...
Sept. 28, 2012 at 10:26 am

Wow, solid post Collin!  That really made my day, fantastic explanation and articulation with a nice analogy thrown in, really fantastic work!
Bravo!  (If you only you posted more often :P)

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Dynamo replied...
Sept. 28, 2012 at 11:53 am

Chains and chains...the fetters that bind me...nice post Collin, though calling everyone(of that) narrow minded isn't exactly going to get unpassed...

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ZephyrPunk replied...
Sept. 28, 2012 at 3:31 pm

Religion is a failire enterpetation of what life is really about: love. I believe in God, and I believe that the most important thing is to have a relationship with Jesus. I think that religion separates poeple in very violent ways, and is totally uneccesary.

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Serena G. replied...
Oct. 7, 2012 at 10:46 pm

God, this is contraversial! (oh, irony) I think that religon was originally created to make sense of the world around us. With science what's religon usefull for now? 
Well, the truth is I'm not atheist. Not in any way. To say one is atheist is to say that you know everything. And that's not true. If God didn't want to be shown, then he wouldn't be shown.
But, this goes on the flipside as well.
So, personally I'm an agnostic who celebrates Christmas, and calls herself a Christian (because if I said 'I'm an agnostic' then people would look at me weird and be like 'waaaa?') because I believe in saying 'I don't know'.

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Euthiination replied...
Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:36 am

Saying you are atheist doesn't mean you say you know everything, it means you do not believe in a god.

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QueenAnne replied...
Oct. 8, 2012 at 4:57 pm

I'm 13, female, and do not believe in any religion.

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Snow-White-Queen replied...
Oct. 15, 2012 at 9:33 pm

13, me is a girl. Atheist. No religion for that matter. They can't all be true, and I have found it too much of a trial to decide which one is. Therefore, my conclusion is none.

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dainbramaged replied...
Oct. 16, 2012 at 11:17 am

I am a female at the age of 13/14.
I'm atheist. I've felt that way since I was about seven. I can't provide an explanation, I've just always felt like God didn't exist.

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Sunnyskyes96 replied...
Oct. 24, 2012 at 11:08 am

Religion is just a general term word and abused much within history and even now mankind uses it as an excuse for war and just to do the most horrendous things..its quite sad..IN FACT I personally am disgusted with the word religion it does not define my realtionship with God....and thats just my opinion:)

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Sunnyskyes96 replied...
Oct. 24, 2012 at 11:09 am

Im 16 and Female.

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Dynamo replied...
Oct. 24, 2012 at 12:08 pm

Oh! Btw, religion is not a man-constructed term, its resent connotation is quite corrupted. Read its etymology and what it means in practice:)

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