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Apr. 10, 2012 at 9:24 am

I really don't think it's right. I could never be romantically attracted to another girl, but that could be just my opinion. Do you oppose, support, or are you neutral toward same-sex relationships?

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RoseAndThorn replied...
Jun. 7, 2012 at 2:04 am

I am completely for same-sex relationships and marriage, and not only because of my own orientation. I support my views the best I can from a logical arguement. When it comes to people using religion to oppose homosexuality, those people face 3 fatal problems. 1, there are many different types of people and many different religions. 2, separation of church and state, which most modern countries have so that religion does not control society. 3, the question "is it right to use your own beliefs to force someone else to practically obey what you believe?" When it comes to science, lifestyle, and a person's experiences, people argue that it is a choice, a fad, etc. Well, science has proved that hormones greatly affect a person's orientation, even to the point of deciding it many times. And yes, experiences can greatly affect a person in this way. People can go through something that changes them. This change is in the brain, with hormones and other things, as before. This is very common in psychology. For example: someone who almost drowned as a child may become fearful of water, or a girl who was abused by a male might become hateful of all men. I hope this has helped, thanks for reading!

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Jun. 7, 2012 at 10:11 am

Rose, there's a thread below, "Same Gender Realtionships= No good at all.", that I think you might be interested in-- it's a debate of what you're asking in this :)

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Jun. 7, 2012 at 5:03 pm

My question is; if being g.ay is in someones genes, how come we haven't had any (for the most part,) before these last few decades?

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AriaCeoltoir replied...
Jun. 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm

I agree with Randomscreenetc.  God created marriage to be between one man and one woman.  Dating people of the same gender is sinful, in my beliefs, and I could never be romantically attracted to a another girl.

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Filero replied...
Jun. 8, 2012 at 6:15 am

If a man loves another man what diffrence does it make? They are happy and arnt hurting any1. O ya God shoudnt be a reason y u cant love another person. What possible reason would an omnipotent ominicient being not wont a happy sam sex couple? I <3 Gays so what?:)

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MilesC replied...
Jun. 8, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Indeed, Leviticus 18:22 states "do not have relations with a man as one does with a woman. It is detestable".

For some people, this is valid grounds to believe homosexuality is wrong. I respect all of you in that. It's protected under the First Amendment as freedom of religion. As someone who doesn't support LGBT, you have every right to refrain from being in a same-sex relationship. Someone who does not disagree with homosexuality, on the other hand, should be allowed to live and love according to their idea of what is right and wrong, rather than have that determined by someone else's belief set.

Do you get what I'm saying? If you think it's wrong, that's okay! Don't have a same-sex relationship. Regardless of that, you should respect other people. Don't you hate it when atheists try to shove their views down your throat? It's annoying and hurtful sometimes too. In the same way, those of us who think homosexuality is wrong should be respectful towards them and let your beliefs apply to yourself rather than to everyone around you.

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MilesC replied...
Jun. 8, 2012 at 4:12 pm

Interestingly enough, Randomscreenname, homosexuality has been around just as long as heterosexuality has. Socrates, Lord George Byron, Sappho, Alexander the Great, Edward II of England, Hadrian, and many other historical figures from long ago have been considered homosexual or bisexual.

Phaedrus, Eryixmachus, Aristophanes and other Greek intellectuals have all supported homosexuality as virtuous. Bisexuality was more common than heterosexuality in Greek culture.

Meanwhile, in Rome, Pythagoras and Sporus were two men who were legally married (something that was widely accepted) and several other instances besides this one occurred.

Even after Christ's birth and rebirth, people such as Piers Gaveston, and Harvey Milk, as well as many religious figures such as Alcuin of York, and Rodolfo, archbishop of Tours, all were homosexual or something similar.

The LGBT rights movement started in the early 1800s and gained momentum throughout the next two centuries. A huge surge of LGBT activism happened in the late 1900s and has continued to grow up until present day. Today, more than half of Americans support marriage equality for same-sex couples.

It's been around for quite a while, in fact.

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Jakae replied...
Sept. 30, 2012 at 9:38 pm

Let me tell  you this. I have a loving relationship with a girl and we dont appreciate you straight people walking up and down us, like carpets. It you were in the minority like women, african americans and other nationalities, then you understand were we are coming from. consider that when you put that idea in your agruement.

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Kenrichi replied...
Sept. 30, 2012 at 10:47 pm

Jakae: Actually, you can't help being a woman and you can't help being black (or any other nationality). People that advocate child-love are in the minority; yet I'm sure you don't support that.

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Snow-White-Queen replied...
Sept. 30, 2012 at 11:26 pm

Just because you could never be attracted to a person of your gender does not mean anything. People who are like that did not choose to be that way. That's just how they are. They should be accepted for being them. I can't stand all these people who are against same se.x relationships because they could never see themselves in one. Of course you couldn't. Because you weren't made that way. I am straight myself. But imagine- what if same se.x was normal? And being straight was a "sin"? Then how would you all feel? Open your eyes.

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Breece6 replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 6:13 am

Women comprise 54 percent of humans.  Abused and mistreated for ages in many cultures? Yes, certainly.  A minority? Nope.
 
Anyways, nitpicking over :P

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Kenrichi replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm

I'm in a debating mood lol Snow: Hypothetically speaking if opposite sex relationships were a sin then we would have died out a long time ago. Should people marry only to produce children? Nope, but since it is considered sin you shouldn't do it (that's speaking from a spiritual point of view). Should we let serial murders get away with murder because they were made that way? Or as I said before, should we legalize child-love since they love each other? Simple answer of course not :D. As a Teen inker once said, "we have to fight against our sinful desires." (Not sure if that was verbatim, but you get the point)

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Kenrichi replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 5:23 pm

I'm in a debating mood lol

Snow: Hypothetically speaking if opposite se,x relationships were a sin then we would have died out a long time ago. Should people marry only to produce children? Nope, but since it is considered sin you shouldn't do it (that's speaking from a spiritual point of view).

Should we let serial murders get away with murder because they were made that way? Or as I said before, should we legalize child-love since they love each other? Simple answer of course not :D. As a Teen inker once said, "we have to fight against our sinful desires." (Not sure if that was verbatim, but you get the point)

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm

Breece: While we're randomly discussing semantics, I always found it odd that white males are not considered a 'minority' given that they make up less than half of Earth's (or even America's) population. Generally the threshold for a majority is more than a half. :)

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Snow-White-Queen replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Kenrichi, I see your point with the murderers and stuff, but how is love a sin? That is what I fail to understand, speaking religiously. To me, love is love. They can't help it if they don't love the gender they are supposed to. And it's not like it'll bring on World War 3 if same-se.x marriage is legalized. So why don't we just give gays, lesbians, and bise.xuals the same rights straights have? It only seems fair.

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Kenrichi replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 6:53 pm

Snow: Love isn't a sin. And there's only one reason why it's wrong. Because God said it is (I think people will say that's circular reasoning, but idc XD). Good morals and ethics are subjective because majority does not rule; however if there is (and I'm a firm believer) a God then he decides what's right and wrong. Now, can they have the same rights? They will either way, but that's not really for this conversation

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Kenrichi replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 6:53 pm

Snow: Love isn't a sin. And there's only one reason why it's wrong. Because God said it is (I think people will say that's circular reasoning, but idc XD). Good morals and ethics are subjective because majority does not rule; however if there is (and I'm a firm believer) a God then he decides what's right and wrong. Now, can they have the same rights? They will either way, but that's not really for this conversation

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Snow-White-Queen replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Well I guess that is what it is then. See, I am a firm atheist. I respect your religion and all, I hold nothing against you, I just see that it really depends on what someone believes in.

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Kenrichi replied...
Oct. 1, 2012 at 10:21 pm

Snow: I see. Well then we will agree to disagree :D. I had fun, hope to see you more often.^^

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