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Pro-life or Pro-choice?

Donna C. posted this thread...
Mar. 11 at 10:12 am

I'm curious as to what others think on the issue. I also want to write an essay on the matter and would like to include the views of others in my argument. I, myself, am in the middle but I lean much more towards pro-life. What about you? Are you pro-life or pro-choice?

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RayynbowThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 15 at 7:36 pm

I personally am pro-choice. Just becuase I may not believe that I want to have an abo.rtion doesn't mean that other people don't want to have abort.ions too. Also if abor.tions are illigal, then women who want them will just resort to unsafe measures like it was before a.bortion was legal. (not sure if abortion is a word we can use on TI)

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RayynbowThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 15 at 7:40 pm

I'm pro-choice. I might personally want to always keep a baby, but other people might not and I think they should have the choice whether to do that or not. Also women might resort to unsafe ways to rid themselves of an unwanted baby if they don't have safe ways to do it. I'm not saying that I think fetuses aren't separate beings from the mothers, I'm just saying that the mother should be able to choose whether or not she will actually become a mother, if that makes sense.

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 16 at 1:57 pm

Even if you wouldn't yourself, it's still wrong and immoral. When a baby is aborted, it's a living, breathing human being getting killed against its will. Whether a woman gets pregnant intentionally or unintentionally (unless in cases of rape), she should take responsibility for her actions and not be allowed to kill it off just because it's an inconvenience to her.

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 16 at 2:25 pm

pro-life unless the women is going to die from complications.

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FaeNotMyNameThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 16 at 2:53 pm

Pro-choice. This does not mean pro-abortion, it means I think a woman should have the choice to decide what to do with her body - what she thinks is best depending on her situation and related circumstances. I have never had to choose between having a child and having an abortion so I don't believe I can judge the inner conflict a woman must endure in order to make a decision, but I can imagine it is almost never an easy decision.

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 17 at 8:33 am

That's exactly what I mean. Unless in cases of rape, the woman knew the risks of what she was doing that led up to her pregnancy and did it anyway. She should take responsibility for her actions and not be allowed to kill an innocent living, breathing human being against their will because it's just an inconvenience to her.

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writersblock64 replied...
Mar. 20 at 3:12 pm

This is an interesting discussion--

If we define pro life as "valuing life", then i am pro life. However, many associate that term with simply the activism and advocacy of outlawing abortion. So, by my definition, I am BOTH pro life and pro choice!

On the pro life side, I value life. I believe life is a wonderful thing, and that the capabilities of the human body and mind are absolutelty astonishing. I believe that sacrificing this thing we called life is detrimental, and I also essentially believe it is nobody else's decision to decide whether or not a human living gets to live or die.



On the pro choice side, I also believe it is NOBODIES decision what someone ELSE gets to do with their body. We all have individual liberty, and telling someone what they can and cant to in terms of health and choice is incorrect.

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411Ellie_This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 21 at 7:17 pm

As a Catholic, I am obligated to choose pro-life. However, what if I was raped? Must a 15-year-old girl like myself carry a baby to term when she did not choose to have sex? Wouldn't it prolong psychological trauma? I want to choose life, but I understand that every situation is different and not everyone shares my religious beliefs. In the end, I choose pro-choice.

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 23 at 8:46 am

I h.ate how some people will way 'except for r.ape' because believe it or nkt you probably know someone who is a product of r.ape. So many great people are here because their mom decided not to a.bort them. Should one have to that Ellie? With your religious beliefs you'd think that you would believe the child was put in you for a certain reason.

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 23 at 2:49 pm

Everyone talks as if the only option are keeping or abortion. Adoption is an option as well.

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 23 at 4:44 pm

okay I notice a lot of people are getting their posts ate by the filter. Some things to follow, if it is a questionable word put a period in it. Like r.ape, or a.bortion. That's why the posts don't show up until the mods come through because it's getting ate by the filter.

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 24 at 7:13 am

"So many great people are here because their mom decided not to a.bort them."
 
And so are an overwhelming number of people who have had a terrible childhood because their mother was unable to support them as a single parent and/or resented their existence for arguably very legitimate reasons, and hence grew up with any one or more of a host of mental and psychological issues that affect that person and the persons around them for the rest of their life, not to mention how terrible it would be for the mother to have to commit some ~20 years of their life to raising a child that they never wanted to have and who serves as a living reminder of the aforementioned r.ape.
 
It irks me to think that you would opt to remove a woman's choice in the matter, all the while never considering what it would actually be like for her and for the child, never trying to imagine yourself in their shoes.
 
What I'm saying is that perhaps one life allowed to continue on its right course, maybe marry and have a proper, happy family one day with children who grow up cared for and appreciated, is better than two miserable lives disrupted by a patriarchy which would have you believe that it is only fair that a victim of r.ape should be forced to devote some 20+ years of their life carrying, birthing, and raising a child that they did not want.

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 24 at 8:26 am

You say that it irks you because we'd be removing the woman's choice in the matter but many people fail to realize that the baby inside her is a human being as well. So you believe it's ok to take that small human being's rights away because it's too small and weak to speak for itself?

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 24 at 8:37 am

And people also fail to think of another option: Adoption. If the woman doesn't want her baby, then she can give the child to someone else who does want it instead of killing it off.

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Mr.packerbear12This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 24 at 10:25 am

stunt: You're giving me the blown up issues, those happen without r.ape as well. Also I agree with picky, these are human beings, and you can send it off for adoption. What's worse, killing your baby or sending it off for adoption?

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 24 at 5:29 pm

At least the baby will have a chance at a life the mother couldn't give it.

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pickypicky844 replied...
Mar. 24 at 5:35 pm

Stunt: If a woman has a baby she doesn't want to keep, whether raped or not, adoption allows for BOTH lives to continue on if not together. She might have to give up a mere 9 months of her lifetime (or less because babies can survive after only 6 months) so that both could live.

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stuntddudeThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Mar. 29 at 6:33 am

"a mere 9 months of her lifetime"
 
I'm sorry, but... do you really completely lack perspective on how much time 9 months really is? The fact of the matter is, in today's cuthroat western societies, spending 9 months preg.nant against your will when you're not in a totally stable economic position can mean delving irreversibly into poverty.
 
Look - if you really want to stop ab.ortions from happening, if that's your goal and you understand the situation at all, then you'll spend your time campaigning against the things that make ab.ortions such a necessary option for women to have, instead of campaigning to make it illegal outright. Because, for one thing, making it illegal is not an effective way to stop it from happening, and more importantly, you're not even addressing the underlying problems. You're just attacking the symptoms, blindly hoping it will work.
 
If you want to stop ab.ortions, here are some actually productive things you can do:
- work to lessen the frequency of r.ape
- make sure people have ready access to cont.raceptives and b.irth control
- campaign for better and less... shall we say, archaic s.ex ed in schools
- campaign to guarantee women better financial stability in such situations as the aforementioned
- campaign for reform of currently mangled systems of adoption

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Jul. 7 at 5:40 pm

I’m definitely more pro-life. The only time I would support an abortion is in the case that birth would threaten the life of either the mother or the child. Otherwise, it’s murder, and cold-blooded at that. Life is the most precious thing we have in this world. With all the talk about not fighting wars or getting involved in foreign situations because of the possible loss of life, we as Americans seem perfectly fine to kill a million of our own children every year.

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