Is anyone else sick of reading books where at the beginning the protagonist is described a being plain or even ugly, then throughout the entire book has two or three guys who do nothing but talk about how gorgeous she is? Or have random people/friends/the entire school telling her how lovely she is to look at?
well thats why its called fiction :D lol no jk
but the point is that the person has low self esteem and thinks they are ugly but they actually arent.......you know like that one direction song
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Okay, is this a joke or not? I can't tell.
The second reply is a joke...
def getting sick of it. It's not reality, for me at least.
Depends on if the protragonist is describing themself as "plain" or "ugly," or if it's the narrator or another character. It can get a annoying, especially since it gives no real personality to the character, because then they're exactly like hundreds of other protragonists. However fictional a book may be, they always encompass parts of reallity, and part of that is including relatable characters. A lot of people, mainly young girls, think they're ugly or plain, when they really are beautiful to everyone else. I do think, however, that using this repeatedly in the same scenerios, such as romances, is soooooooo boring and annoying. How about a queen who thinks she's not good enough, outward and inward, for her people? Or a young girl who dreams of being an actress, doesn't think she has the looks, but is surprised when she really does? No. We get same old, boring old teen romance novels about a girl thinking she's not good enough for a guy, which is not good thing at all. Girls don't need to be gorgeous to be good enough to a guy, because the guy that'll love her will love her for who she is inside, and also out. They'll fall in love with everything about her. Her heart, her hair, her style, everything. We should have more books about that. And vice versa. Guys shouldn't have to look good enough for girls, either. A Delicate balance.
Fortunately, there are enough books in the world to avoid these characters if you wish. Not every book is like that, though I find most young adult novels are, so lately I've been staying away from Teen fiction. Whenever in doubt, I suggest a good Jane Austen read. Her lovely heroines will give those new stereotypical modern heroines of teen lit a good kic in the back with their confidence and nature.
"A lot of people, mainly young girls, think they're ugly or plain, when they really are beautiful to everyone else."
Or when they think they are ugly but would like to believe that others do not see them that way regardless of how others actually do see them - either way it's irrelevant to the main problem, which is that so many teens are unreasonably obsessed with their appearance in the first place, not so much that they have low self esteem about it.
Anyways, unironic mary sues should burn, except those that exist in real life, who shouldn't burn because that's just terrible, come on.
QueenAnne, YES YES YES!!! I spend most of my free time reading books and analyzing them, and I just can't STAND that.
Let's take Bella Swan, a character most are familiar with. She describes herself as a totally plain girl with "ivory" skin (though who the heck describes their skin as ivory? It's just Fancy Talk for pale!) Anyway, as totally plain as she claims to be, THREE GUYS (I exagerate not) asked her to prom. THREE! Oh, but she is positively ordinary, plainer than plain, uhuh Bella, cut the crap.
Then we've got Clary from the Mortal Instruments (I'm purposely using famous characters, but there are many more charecters from obsecure books that suffer from Mary Sue Syndrome). With her flaming red hair and bright green eyes, Clary is just positively BORING! Pretty? Not me, says Clary. (Two guys spend their entirety of spotlight time in the book obsessing over her? Eh, details.)
Lord help us all.
Personally I can’t recall any books I’ve read where something like this happens. Maybe a different subclass of YA that I don’t often delve into. If it really bothers you just make sure not to emulate it in your own writing.
I haven't even seen it
YES! I am so glad someone else is bothered by this! I love Twilight, but what is up with Bella saying she's not pretty at all and then being hounded by Edward, Jacob and practically every boy at her highschool! What gives?
Mary Sue effect? That's very witty of you lol.
Also, i really don't like when in a distopian-based story, the protagonist falls in love with the first guys she meets. I think it sends the wrong message, that it is saying that a girl MUST love someone at first sight for it to be 'true' love. that is one reason i enjoy the hunger games. i feel for gale, but katniss doesn't just go for the first guy she sees. i know the hunger games is different circumstances and stuff, but i still likr it for those reasons. teen ficton has gotten into a pattern. i feel like once you read one or two, you've kinda read them all.
True true. I posted that comment awhile ago, but after I did I was like, ohhhh, this is a total recap of what evreyone just said lol
EXACTLY. I mean, WHAT'S THE POINT??? If you're going to make your protag hot, at least let her know it. Yeah people can relate to her if she's insecure, but she has NOTHING to be sad about.
Well, Bella Swan is the narrator in the case you talk about, and I think we all tend to downgrade our own appearances from time to time. The key words in your case are "as she claims to be," since we see the story (and Bella's own appearance) through her own eyes. Bella doesn't think she's pretty, so she tells us she isn't and is surprised when guys ask her to the prom.
(In answer to your question about an ivory skin color, I do use that word myself to describe my own skin color since I can't hold a tan worth anything.)