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NewsJunkie posted this thread...
May 22, 2013 at 9:21 am

I would love to hear your thoughts on Election 2016...it's not as far away as you think!!!!!!

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RedsFan23 replied...
May 25, 2013 at 8:35 am

It's still a long way away, but I'm excited for it. I expect some of the more conservative Republicans who didn't run last time will, like Chris Christie or Rubio or maybe Huckabee, etc. Whether they will have any chance considering the huge demographic change going against Republicans that we saw in 2012 is yet to be seen, and depends a lot on the rest of Obama's term. I really have no idea who will win the Democrat's nomination. Hillary? Biden? Someone most people have never heard of, like Obama in 2008? My personal choice for the new Oval Office in 2016 would be Marco Rubio as President and Mitch Daniels as Vice President (but mostly because Mitch Daniels is from my home state!)

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human6 replied...
May 25, 2013 at 9:24 am

I enjoy watching the elections, but only for sporting reasons, same reason I watch baseball or soccer. I don't care about the out come at all.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I suspect that the Republicans are going to split, between norther moderates like Romney and southern crazies like Bachman. This will mean that the dems will sweep the election, but the Greens might take the left wing position and the Dems will be the center right party. 

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Indigo.Knows replied...
May 25, 2013 at 11:00 am

I wish Christie would run. But oh gosh, not Joe Biden!

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Imaginedangerous replied...
May 25, 2013 at 8:51 pm

Oh gosh, not Mike Huckabee. :(
 
I think, human, you're right that the Republicans are going to split. I don't think the Dems are going to move to the right at all, though- if the Republican party falls to infighting (which wouldn't surprise me) there will be a mass exodus from conservatism in general. The Tea Party does not play nice. They'll get so extreme trying to 'win' the ideological battle in the GOP that they'll scare all the voters away.
 
I wish Paul Ryan would run. Honestly, after watching him in the VP debate last year, I was more impressed with him than with Romney. I don't think Clinton is going to run (she's had health problems) and I really hope Biden doesn't (although he probably will regardless of my wishes.) I wouldn't mind Chris Christie running either.

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human6 replied...
May 25, 2013 at 10:50 pm

Who said anything about moving, the democrats are just moderate conservatives. Have been since the Reagan Revolution.

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human6 replied...
May 25, 2013 at 10:51 pm

I like Joe Biden, he's forced Obama to move left take a stand on g ay and se x rights. 

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CollinF replied...
May 26, 2013 at 1:00 am

I suspect Obama's recent scandals won't do anything to affect the election. Proponents of a welfare state are voted for as such whether or not they're snakes.
 
I hope Nancy Pelosi runs for the Dems and wins. That way if she gets assasinated we'll have something positive come out of politics for once . . .
 
Imagine:
 
Aww. Mike Huckaby is probably my favorite politician (if you could call him that). Too Conservative for ya? Well, if I could've voted in the primaries I'd've gone with Santorum in the last election hands down. My Conservatism knows no bounds, it seems. Though I'd vote for Christie too, especially since he'd be more of a mediator. He seems very level headed and also "tell-ya-how-it-is," which I respect.

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CollinF replied...
May 26, 2013 at 1:01 am

Joe Biden's a joke. He'd be laughed at by other world leaders. Telling a paralyzed guy to stand up and get recognized? Really, Joe?

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human6 replied...
May 26, 2013 at 12:10 pm

I live in new jersey and Chris Christie is scum. He sat on his a ss before sandy and afterwards cut support to people trying to rebuild while posing for the cameras and posturing at the feds. Really he foolled lots of people out of NJ, but the people who saw sandy know the truth. 

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Imaginedangerous replied...
May 26, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Collin: Huckabee is waaaay too far right for me, and I'm not crazy about his record on religious tolerance. His 2008 campaign pretty much consisted of 'vote for me because Romney's a Mormon'. I'm fine with a religious candidate as long as he doesn't bash on others' beliefs- which Huckabee does. 
 
 
human- I forgot that your definition of 'liberal' is 'Marx'. From there, everyone looks moderate. Out of curiosity, are there any liberals you consider too extreme? :)

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Imaginedangerous replied...
May 26, 2013 at 5:42 pm

And I agree Biden is a joke... the entire VP debate last year he called Prime Minister Netanyahu 'BB Net.' I'm trying to imagine him in a diplomatic crisis...
 
"You see, Ayatollah, the real problem is that ol' BB Net over here doesn't want you to have nukes!"
 
No.

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human6 replied...
May 26, 2013 at 7:16 pm

I consider liberalism to be moderate conservativism. 
 
 
 
 
The democrats are liberals, thats why they are a center right party. The farthest left democrat is would be on the far right of the tories in england.

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NewsJunkie replied...
May 30, 2013 at 9:20 am

Your thoughts are great guys! I am a very liberal Democrat and agree with your thoughts on the Republican party fracturing. I think this election will result in a favorable outcome for the Dems because a line is being drawn between the neocons and the more moderate Repubs.
 

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Gryffindor replied...
May 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm

I always like the elections that have new faces all around. As in there isn't a president trying to run for re-election. It will be interesting to see which parties come up with which. As long as Sarah Palin isn't reinserted into the election, I'm good. She was just sooooooooooo............idk how to explain it.

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CollinF replied...
May 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm

Imagine:

Ah, good point. I never saw that, but that would be a blemish on his record. I think it's very important for candidates to make it clear how their religion affects their lives, but publicly bashing someone else's is pretty low, no matter who they are.

Gryffindor:

I like elections without an incumbant too. And I didn't like Palin either, though I still think the Democrats' response to her was ridiculous. She wasn't really any dumber than any other politician (I think that was mostly an act) and there's much more dirt to be had on Obama, yet we knew all about how Palin's daughter is pregnant, etc.

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CollinF replied...
May 30, 2013 at 9:28 pm

Imagine:
 
Ah, good point. I never saw that, but that would be a  blemish on his record. I think it's very important for candidates to make it clear how their religion affects their lives, but publicly bashing someone else's is pretty low, no matter who they are.
 
Gryffindor: 
 
I like elections without an incumbant too. And I didn't like Palin either, though I still think the Democrats' response to her was ridiculous. She wasn't really any dumber than any other politician (I think that was mostly an act) and there's much more dirt to be had on Obama, yet we knew all about how Palin's daughter is p.regnant, etc. 

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Imaginedangerous replied...
May 30, 2013 at 9:49 pm

I'm not sure if Palin really is an idiot or if she just acts like an idiot... but I have to admit neither exactly makes me enthusiastic about her. I don't think she's going to run, though- her political capital ran out a few years ago.

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NewsJunkie replied...
May 31, 2013 at 9:10 am

Does anyone else believe that the Democrats will prevail in 2016 because the Republican Party will be sooooo disordered? Personally, I really want Hillary to run in 2016 because she is a liberal powerhouse. I think we may also see Christie run because of his good relationship w/ Obama...he may have to stay on a moderate course though.

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May 31, 2013 at 11:55 am

I really liked Hillary, much more then her husband. She had a gift with figuring what was most important, and in this case education. Can't say I want a democrat or republican in office again. Too much politics and too little action. We need a libertarian, or someone from the green party who can give a new perspective that doesn't have to do with money and popularity.

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