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Jade.I.Am replied...
Jun. 10, 2013 at 7:47 pm

Is it too late to jump in on this and provide a different perspective? Y'all seem a little......agitated :P

Though I'm not sure I want to........look, one can be against homose.xuality and not be a homo.phobe, okay?

Let me put my stance:

I'm against homos.exuality, but not for putting that belief into politics and organizations. I believe nobody has a right to exclude somebody from something they wanna do based on certain qualifications, one of them being their se.xual orientation. Ga.y boy scouts? Sure.

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Jade.I.Am replied...
Jun. 10, 2013 at 7:51 pm

gah my reply didn't post.
anywayssssssss I was asking if i could jump in on this and provide a fresh perspective. it seems y'all are just a little agitated....need a new face? :P
And btw, you can be against homos.exuality and not be a homoph.obe. 
For instance, my stance:
I don't agree with homos.exuality, as it doesn't correspond to my beliefs as a Christian. However, I see no reason that anyone has a right to bring those beliefs into the political stage, and ban someone from participating in an activity they love based on their se.xual orientation. G.ay boy scouts? Sure. 
I see why some of this might be personal for you guys, and yeah, insults have been thrown around. But try to respect each other's viewpoints. I don't think homose.xuality is natural or morally sound, but do I hate homos.exuals? No. Am I respectful towards them? Yes. Why wouldn't I be? I don't see why people can't disagree and remain respectful at the same time. 

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Breece6 replied...
Jun. 14, 2013 at 12:07 am

*pops head in*
I'm pretty sure Boy Scouts is a largely Christian thing, even if they won't admit it :P
In that case they can have whatever rules they want.

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Destinee replied...
Jun. 15, 2013 at 5:26 pm

LOL okay I see XD I'd never buy popcorn (? do people buy that?!?!?! I just pop it at home) but that's cool then.
Ah okay I see. :) I would've thought that once it became a social probelm (causing harm in my hypothetical example), it would cease to be a matter solely for the bedroom. :) But I was just interested in your opinion. Thanks! 
You make me blush :P 
I would've thought the same, but virtually every single q.ueer person I have met is rather obsessed with it. If Tumblr is a good representation, my g.ay friends do nothing but tumble (is that the word?) stuff about being q.ueer and asserting their right to be q.ueer (making it more than an act). I would put their obsession with it with my obsession with being a Muslim. I agree with you -- s.exuality is really the least important part of my identity LOL. But it's a culture of instant gratification :) unfortunately. And s.ex is the most instant of all gratitifcations. I view p.romiscuity in a similar light, so I'm not just talking about h.o.mos.exuals. :) 

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Destinee replied...
Jun. 15, 2013 at 5:34 pm

Miller said he then told Cody that the point of going to church is to seek forgiveness — not for being all-inclusive.
What an interesting answer. Speaks volumes about the difference between secular humanism and religion. 

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Jun. 20, 2013 at 7:05 pm

The point of church is to seek forgiveness. But it should also be open to everyone because anybody can find redemption. So both are correct. (This is besides the point, though.)
I'm actually not too disappointed with the outcome. I do feel sorry for the Boy Scouts, though, because this is a fight that nobody can win- within hours of the decision extreme conservatives were ranting about their permissiveness and ga.y rights activists were ranting about how leaders are still banned. It seems nobody is willing to accept rational comprimise.

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Destinee replied...
Jun. 23, 2013 at 8:52 pm

Thinking about what you said about p.orn and p.romiscuity, unless a h.o.mos.exual is open about committing s.odomy (the act), then I don't see the problem. 
So if you suspect someone views p.orn or whatever, that is vastly differnet to actually knowing that they do.
Given that Christianity is supposed to be anti-legalistic, issues like this (I feel) aren't addressed properly. What to do about s.exual immorality, I mean, is their a "legal" (i.e. social) consequence or is it purely spiritual? Stuff like that which no doubt the Catholic Church addresses, but Protestantism I feel does not (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). 
But anyway ya so if someone is openly sleeping with his gf, then same deal: kicked out. If someone is opely sleeping with his boyfriend, same deal. 
The point is not to make h.o.mosexuality out to be a form of self-expresson or a culture or an identity. 

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