As most of you know, Kim Jong Il died, leaving his dictatorship to his hot headed son, Kim Jong Un. Now this kid doesn't have any experience running a country or military, and he was raised with sub par moral standards, but he's so far gone that he thinks it's best to develop nuclear weapons and blatantly threaten anyone who doesn't give him what he wants with a nuclear war. It's like Russia all over again, except this time, North Korea isn't really that much of a threat, but they're probably more likely to attack then Russia ever was. Why have we been so lax with North Korea for all these years? Why didn't the rest of the world destroy the dictatorship early on? North Korea is an offense on so many levels, the civilians are treated very poorly. They are brainwashed and starving, and no one wants to do anything. American forces have been stationed in South Korea for years, and still they didn't see fit to do anything. We're over in the middle east, fighting over resources and religion, and there is an entire forgotten population that is in need of our help. There is so much controversy over the handling of North Korea, and I want to know why. Why won't anyone across the entire globe do something about this mess? Thoughts and opinions on North Korea?
Kmeep's Thoughts and Opinions on North Korea:
They're a mess. You're right, everyone is treated so badly in North Korea, and the worst part is that their not allowed to leave!
In my opinion, we should destroy them.
They're too big of a threat, and wildly unstable at that.
At the very least we should invade and destroy their government,, disable their nukes should be first priority though.
Honestly, as much pity as I have for the actual people that live there, like you said, they're miserable and brainwashed.
I wouldn't be opposed to ICBM'ing the whole place, it would invovle a lot less risk then a military invasion, wouldn't give them any response time to fire off nukes.
It's extremely arrogant of them to threaten to nuke Washington when they barely even have the technology or resources. Their government should be obliterated and the territory given to South Korea. The Kim family are absolutely nuts. They are bigoted, abusive, narcissists. I mean, come one, they have an entire family tree full of dictators. How could one family gain so much power? They treat their leader like a god over there and it's creepy, like one massive cult.
Yeah, it's a disaster.
The reason we don't destroy them:
We have a lot of military resources over in South Korea (left over from the Korean war and kept there because the Kims are crazy). China shares a border with North korea. China does NOT want that military power near it's borders; they feel threatened. If we were to invade/nuke North Korea, China would interpret it as a threat (possibly a precursor to a Manichurian invasion) and probably declare war. Russia also shares a small border with North Korea and has economic ties. They'd most likely join in. And all three hate the US.
An attack on North Korea would lead to Russia, China, and North Korea against the US (and probably most of NATO)- welcome to World War 3. (Not to mention the fact that the American people and Congress do not usually respond well to unprovoked wars on foreign soil over ideology.)
A war isn't likely to happen any time soon unless North Korea actually launches nukes (which won't happen). The best we can hope for is a meteor hitting Pyongyang and wiping out the Kims.
I know a guy who defends the DPRK
Pshhh, they aren't a threat. There largest nuke is a 10kt missle. We have 1.2Mt missles.(1.2Mt is equal to 1200 kt.) WE have curerently 18 Ohio Class Ballistic nuclear submarines, with 21 Trident Missles on board and over 105 Tomahawk missles on board. Alone one of those submarines is equal to the third largest army in firepower in the world. ONE of them is. WE have 18. we have 18 Ohio class. Thats not including the rest of the subs we have. WE could demolish North Korea with one of them.
However, They are most certainly not a threat. WE shouldn't even worry about North Korea at the moment. They just want attention. Besides they know and we know that China is their biggest Ally. and China doesn't want a war. Besides without China North Korea is toast before us. If north Korea starts a war China will back out.
Besides they got like 20 active mssles. We have over 9,000.
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Great reference for Nuclear warheads and comparing them.
Remember how Iraq was a "threat?" Yeah.
Less money to the wars and more to education, please.
Why spend money on wars? Already the Military is experiencing Budget cuts. The Navy had to put off buying 4 more Aircraft carriers. We jave 12. The next 10 countries after us, TOGETHER don't even add up to us.
Sometimes, the only way people feel safe is when they are the biggest and toughest one in the room.
I actually saw a picture on Facebook the other day about this. It was a mini-Kim, tossing a warhead that broke apart at America's foot. Then it got this 'Come at me bro' look.
They're not a threat. They're like those little kids on COD that shout swear words at you because you're winning. If they do launch nukes, then we'll wreck them apart into pieces, because we can. On the matter of China...China wouldn't do anything. Because they're smart, and still developing rather quickly.
I don't think anything'll be happen.
The whole oppressive regime is scary. I remember watching this undercover story video on North Korea, and there were these poor people who were praising a poster of the current leader so emphatically... I just don't understand.
Because Americans never.mindlessly praise a piece of paper. (Cough) pledge (courgh)
Wow, you never cease to make me smile, Human. It's true though, they are told these things from birth, and their parents take it to heart, so the kids take it to heart and so on until you have an entire nation under your finger who follow you for no other reason then it's what they know. Ignorance is bliss. But for the rest of us it's he.ll.
North Korea is a total joke militarily, but if we let them develop a mi.ssile that could reliably deliver a n.uke, they could do some serious damage to South Korea if backed into a corner. At this point, if we could get China ot sign off on it, then forming an international coalition to invade North Korea, remove the threat, and free their people would almost be a humanitarian action. If we could take out Iraq in 1991 with virtually no casua.lties when Iraq had the best former So.viet technology could buy, I think we could beat a smaller, starved army with likely no morale.
You might be wondering why I decided to post in this thread. Not only has North Korea been ratcheting up rhetor.ic recently, but I had a dream last night that I was a soldier on the D.MZ and we were attacked by the North Koreans then we proceeded to des.troy them.
On a totally separate note, what if we actually lived in a North Korea-esque nation and we are all brainwash.ed into thinking we're the best? What if everywhere you go is still part of this dysto.pia and there are perfect societies surrounding our terrible one?
China is getting to that point where they are ultimately just pissed off at N. Korea. North Korea just kept going. If anything happens, it will probably last about 3-5 days. We have B-2 Stealth bombers and B-52 Bombers flying over South Korea as we speak. There are 2 MEU(Marine Expeditionary Units) on the coast of South Carolina. And the Pacific fleet is 6 hours away. That combined with our nukes and China not helping them, Korea will be gone. However, I highly doubt they will do anything.
No we don't need to step into North Korea at all. We don't need to go to war with them over threats and unstable government. If they hit us first, then we will respond in kind. Just war Theory is in place here.
I guess in my haste I failed to fully explain myself. Realistically, the only way we can get the world (and I mean the entire world, save maybe Iran) to support us invading North Korea is them provoking us. What I meant was that if it really was the whole world, including China and Russia, unified in hatred against North Korea, I would certainly at least consider invading or at least laying down some very, very harsh sanctions. The way things currently are though, we're going to need North Korea to start something if we want international support, and we should not start something unless everyone agreed on it or it was in self defense.