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Imaginedangerous posted this thread...
Sept. 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm

Well, this forum is unnaturally quiet, and we had this discussion in my WWII class today and I didn't get to explain my opinion. So I'm going to do it here where you people have no choice but to listen to me. (Unless, of course, you stop reading here. Or never clicked on this thread at all.... Except that you did! Mwahahaha- I win!) :)
 
 
Anyway, back to the topic. If things got really bad (say, economic meltdown on the level of the Great Depression, or a civil war, or massive natural disasters)- could America ever turn to fascism or communism? Germany, Italy, and Russia all had severe economic problems and were trying to recover from wars/revoloutions when the people turned to radical political philosphies. (Maybe they later became oppressed by their govenrments, but in the beginning the public wanted that changes.) If there was widespread destruction/poverty/unrest, do you think the US could ever do the same? Why or why not?
 
(Please bear in mind this is not a debate over which is better. This is a debate over which is more likely or if either would be possible at all.)

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Sept. 26, 2012 at 7:38 pm

Personally, I don't think that either would happen. Such a radical shift in nationwide political philosphy would require a great deal of unity- which is something that American politics rather lack. (In the first few years after he came to power, Hitler had a 90% approval rating. I can't imagine 90% of Americans agreeing on anything.) I believe we'd turn to anarchy before we ever got enough people to choose either facism or communism.

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 5:56 am

I think fascism is fairly likely, it's almost human nature to look to a singular point of authority in desperate times.

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 5:56 am

I think fascism is fairly likely, it's almost human nature to look to a singular point of authority in desperate times.

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An-eloquent-leafThis teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 6:38 am

I agree with both Imagine and Breece. First, I think there would be a period of anarchy—how long or how short it would last, I don't know—but eventually a small group of wealthy, powerful people will set up some sort of fascist system. Either that, or, well, anarchy would remain.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 30, 2012 at 11:32 am

I could see fascism, though not called that, if the economy got bad enough, it would prolly be heavily anti muslim, anti leftist and anti immigration. It would prolly be very Christian and allied to the bigh churches. A communist revolution seems unlikelly, I could see some form of fight involving occupy, or a right libertarian resistance movement.

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Oct. 4, 2012 at 11:05 am

I don't think American has to get bad to turn to that. American is a selfish country. One day people will find out how stupid this government system is. Putting one man in charge of everything but then putting all these other men to watch his actions. All selfish idiots only looking out for themselves. I know it's bound to happen. 

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Oct. 6, 2012 at 9:50 am

To Arnie:
 
The president doesn't have nearly as much power as people like to say.  He's more of a big scapegoat than anything to be honest :P  
 
The real power is in the Congress, which are elected by the people's representatives, which are elected by the people.  This system avoids the insurmountable logistics problems that a direct democracy would bring.

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