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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 22, 2012 at 9:47 pm

Yes, Fox News is indeed a major news network. That’s why I’ve said before, and yet neglected to this time, that most major networks. In fact, take Fox out of the equation and I can’t name any network off the top of my head that does lean right.

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Aaron C. replied...
Sept. 22, 2012 at 9:49 pm

In my opinion, most major media sources are biased to the left. Personally, and this is not a hard and fast rule, CNN leans left, but is probably the least biased of the Big Three (CNN MSNBC Fox). Fox is not bad until your 8 oclock to 10 oclock talk shows. They have fairly unbiased anchors of news shows  and allow guests from opposing viewpoints to state their arguments. MSNBC does not. On the rare occasions they allow a conservative voice on their show, they drown them out with their own rhetoric. Although Fox can be guilty of that too (especially once you get to Sean Hannity), usually Fox morning and afternoon news shows will take most partisanship out of their broadcast. But when I want good, nonbiased reporting, I turn to the local news or the Internet, merely because the Internet has such a variety of opinions and viewpoints.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 22, 2012 at 11:16 pm

Its worth pointing out that the Left wing of the Democratic Party would be laughed out of the right wing of New Democracy (a greek conservative party). Also that CNN is pretty neutral, and no network is anti war.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 22, 2012 at 11:16 pm

Its worth pointing out that the Left wing of the Democratic Party would be laughed out of the right wing of New Democracy (a greek conservative party). Also that CNN is pretty neutral, and no network is anti war.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 22, 2012 at 11:19 pm

I agree with Aron, internet FTW.
 
I watch news while filtering for political/economic interest. Russia Today/Al Jazzeera is good for the geopolitical opposition to America, the Big Three are good for the American side. China Daily is good for the Chinese side.
 
and the internet is good for the peoples side.

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 23, 2012 at 1:59 pm

Well first, I really don’t think that CNN is neutral. I agree with Aaron. They lean left, though at times they do an alright job. If you really want to see biased media, I think that NBC is the worst.
 
However, good media and good news shouldn’t take “sides”, as you put it human6. Media should report the truth and let people develop their own opinions based on what they’ve been shown.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 23, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Until we invent reporting robots we won't get nuetrality, so its better to learn how to recognize bias and look at every sides opinion of the story.

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Now that’s something that I have to agree with. It’s human nature to take sides and form opinions. It’s just that you see it happen so often in the news that you begin to wonder if there’s anyone with integrity left out there.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 23, 2012 at 3:00 pm

It might not even be conscious, most journalists try to be neutral but fail

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Imaginedangerous replied...
Sept. 23, 2012 at 3:46 pm

Aaron: Maybe it's just because of where I live, but I think local news is some of the most biased of all. The smaller a geographic area you cover, the more homogenous the people tend to be- and thus local news tends to reflect popular opinion of that one small area pretty closely.
 
Here's an example: The biggest news organizations in the Salt Lake City area (where I live) are KSL and the Deseret News. Both were founded by the Mormon church (all the way back when Mormons were the only ones living in the state). Both are extremely conservative and unabashed supporters of the Mormon church. Together (they collaborate, since one does radio/TV and the other does the newspaper) they're the biggest news outlet in the state.
 
Everyone knows that they're biased, so why are they so popular? Because the only other major outlet in the state is the Salt Lake Tribune, which isn't dedicated to providing an unbiased alternative as much as it is to proving everything KSL says wrong. There's something in there critical of the Mormon church (or Mormon culture) at least once a week, and Democrats get twice the news space that Republicans do (unless, of course, the tea party does something insanely stupid). KSL and the Deseret News are more popular because there's no way to get unbiased news, and if the news has to be biased the 70% of the state that are Republican would prefer to read something biased in their favor.

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Aaron C. replied...
Sept. 23, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Imagine- That is a good point, but I live in rural Indiana, and the news broadcasts out of Indianapolis. There is very, very, very little bias from that news station. It has an almost imperceptible right lean, like the rest of Indiana, but it is hardly noticeable on the average night (Indiana voted for Obama in 2008, after all).

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 24, 2012 at 5:51 am

Caesar:

Actually the "Keep America American" is Mitt Romney's campaign slogan, go ahead and google it if you want :)

Now, I don't know where you live persay, but I live in South Carolina, and here I think it is a very accurate statement to say that people label foreign things as communist. I see it all the time, granted I live in redneck central like I mentioned before, but it is definitely here.

No idea where you live though, it might seem absurd compared to your local gimmicks :)

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on fascism, all my research and an AP Euro teacher support my side, so I don't think I'll be changing my notion any time soon.

To Caesar, but On Topic:

I actually find a very interesting dynamic, I find that in the daytime, television tends to be very conservative, but at night (during adult swims) everything turns very liberal on us. To be honest, watching American television at night reminds me of watching British television, it's full of subtle themes and hints supporting a.theism and h.omosexuality and the supernatural and all sorts of things conservatives and far lefties (if I'm using that term correctly) tend to not like. News channels too, if you stay up late enough they'll have all kinds of liberal stuff on them.

Imagine:

Yes, "t.his" in some cultures is actually a euphamism for "F*** YOU ****IN ******* GO **** IN A ****) So it tends to be censored for political reasons.



:P

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 24, 2012 at 5:54 am

 
Caesar:
 
Actually the "Keep America American" is Mitt Romney's campaign slogan, go ahead and google it if you want :)
 
Now, I don't know where you live persay, but I live in South Carolina, and here I think it is a very accurate statement to say that people label foreign things as communist.  I see it all the time, granted I live in r.edneck central like I mentioned before, but it is definitely here.  
 
No idea where you live though, it might seem absurd compared to your local gimmicks :)
 
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on fascism, all my research and an AP Euro teacher support my side, so I don't think I'll be changing my notion any time soon.  
 
To Caesar, but On Topic: 
 
I actually find a very interesting dynamic, I find that in the daytime, television tends to be very conservative, but at night (during adult swims) everything turns very liberal on us.  To be honest, watching American television at night reminds me of watching British television, it's full of subtle themes and hints supporting a.theism and h.omosexuality and the supernatural and all sorts of things conservatives and far lefties (if I'm using that term correctly) tend to not like.  News channels too, if you stay up late enough they'll have all kinds of liberal stuff on them.  
 
Imagine:
 
:P

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 25, 2012 at 5:13 pm

Well, Breece6, I think the first thing you have to realize here is that the Internet doesn’t always tell the truth. I took your advice and googled “Keep America American” as Mitt Romney’s campaign slogan. You know what I found? Some crazy liberal websites in frenzy over it, and a bunch of weirdoes mumbling on Facebook about it. That’s it. Period. I suppose I forgot to mention the one YouTube video of a fake ad that someone pulled together for Romney.
 
I did hear Romney say “keep America America” in one of his speeches, but that’s a totally different story. And I must say that I wasn’t incorrect when Calvin Coolidge said that “America must be kept American”, spawned by anti-immigrant policies of the 1920s.
 
As for people labeling foreign things as communist, maybe it is a regional thing. I’ve never personally been to South Carolina (been to Georgia though) but where I live, people aren’t crazy about Communism. African Americans and Asians aren’t arrested or shot in the streets. Heck, I quite frequently enjoy eating out at Chinese buffets!
 
Like I said though, maybe it is a regional thing. I live just a little south of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and Milwaukee was the first city in the country to elect a socialist mayor, back in the 60s. So, maybe it’s in the electorate.
 
I guess I can agree to disagree, but if I could I’d love to change your notion. After all, you do say that you’re open minded. Plus, I’ve got my own set of teachers to back up my claim.
 
Lastly about the conservative by day, and liberal at night. I could definitely see that, and maybe if I try and pay closer attention to the news and such, maybe I’ll see a difference. Though you know, David Letterman, Jay Leno, and Jimmy Kimmel are all on pretty late, and they're mostly liberals.   

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Breece6This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 6:09 am

Caesar:
 
Ah, I just wikipedia'd it (completely reliable! :P) And found that his slogan is "believe in America", but he also, like you mentioned, said it in a speech.  And I don't think I ever disagreed about Calvin Coolidge, but regardless that shows that the notion is at least historically common in America.  
 
Ah, Wisconsin (yankee :P), it's probably more prevelant down here.  I do have to mention though that I'm pretty sure African Americans and Asians are arrested in the streets down here, just as much as anybody else is :P
 
Ah well, I'd love to see some sources for your version of fascism.  I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't give some myself though, here's another (completely reliable) wikipedia source:
 
ht tp://e n.wikipedia.o rg/wiki/F ascism
 
^ Gotta take the spaces out, the censors eat website links. 
 
And lastly, yup, I think for some reason there's a consensus that "conservative" stuff is more appropriate for kids than "liberal" stuff.  When I say "conservative" and "liberal" what I mean is things that abide by viewpoints that are assosciated with those notions, not specifally politics at all even.  Like the same way Friends is considered an appropriate show that is still targeted at an adult audience, whereas South Park is generally considered inappropriate and still targeted at an adult audience.  

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 4:56 pm

Well first Breece, I’m not sure how you can so that Wikipedia is reliable, seeing as anyone can come along and change it or say what they want. But if that’s your opinion, you can have it.
 
While I don’t dispute that fascism relies on patriotism or a national identity, it mainly relies on power consolidated into one source (a dictator) as well as seizing control of industry and business.
 
If you want a source, here’s one:
 
ht tp://d ictionar y.reference. com /bro wse/f asci sm? s=t

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human6 replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 7:10 pm

that was the most respected work on fascism ever written. that definition has no bering on the philosophies of H.itler or Mussilin.i

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 27, 2012 at 9:00 pm

Why would that definition not apply to either Hitler or Mussolini? They were fascists after all.

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human6 replied...
Sept. 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm

its an inacurate definition. It doesn't descibe their philosophy, you could use that defintion on the USSR

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Caesar123This teenager is a 'regular' and has contributed a lot of work, comments and/or forum posts, and has received many votes and high ratings over a long period of time. replied...
Sept. 28, 2012 at 4:19 pm

Well Mussolini and Hitler both were dictators with complete power, forcibly suppressed opposition, regimented industry and commerce, and emphasized nationalism and/or racism. So I ask you again. Why doesn’t that definition describe either Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini?

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