I don't think my ideas have changed much in this debate.
If it's absolutely necesary to kill someone (As Collin put it so eloquently, someone who like, r.aped and murdered 100 women) then they need to go, for the safety of others.
Otherwise, I think that anybody who is not an uncontrollable threat should be incarcerated (with no chance of parole if that's necessary) and forced to do heavy labor.
I am against the death penalty as well because I think it's pretty pointless. It takes forever to actually get a death sentence, so it's closer to life without parole anyway. There's no evidence to suggest that criminals actually learn from the death penalty. And what gives the government the right to take away life?
No, there is absolutely no evidence that criminals learn from the death penalty. Learning while dead is slightly difficult. :)
Well, the death penalty actually costs more in the long run then keeping thme in a jail cell the rest of their life. Upping security, more guards, the medicine used to inject them isn't cheap. the publicity, ect.
However, there are those few cases that you want the guy gone. What would you have done to the mass murder of the Sandy elementary school shooting had he not committed suicide? You wouldve had to put him in a cell more protected than the Presiden't bunker under the White House. So many people would want to see him dead. I think the death penalty should be reserved for those who deserve it.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Yopu said exactly what I was thinking. :)
Gryffindor: They don't have to up security and all that they just do it. And I hate to be so blunt, but if lethal injection is so bad because its "expensive", then just point a "cheap" gun to the head and execute him. We all make choices in our life and unfortunately they chose to do something that they couldn't undo, so there lives are put at the mercy of jurors that will decide there existence on this earth. It's equivalent exchange. Sorry for the long paragraph lol.
By law the death penalty has to be humane. Death by lethal injection is the only one that is considered humane. As for it costing more it actually does. Let me find my proof
Google death penalty costs more than life without parole. Numerous sites there.
Alright I agree with the lethal injection being expensive, I never doubted you about that. But I was referring to a statement someone referred to awhile back, they said there is no humane way to kill someone and if that was so, then it shouldn't be a problem to do the way I just recently said.
Killing anyone is not humane. Putting it bluntly. Just isnt. However, lethal injection does less bodily harm, leaves everything in tact and the body doesn't suffere any damage or significant bloodloss.
I think the prison system is a waste of time. If someone is violent or kills people, we should just kill them or banish them to Canada. Why would we want to have a murderer near anyone? Why should we pay to keep them in a cage. Imprisonment is cruel and unusual. Think about it, if you were arrested, would you just want to get your sentence over with, or have your sentence end up being a caged animal? If a criminal is a nonviolent offender, we should just make them fix streets, railways, and bridges as community service hours.
I'm sure Canada would really appreciate that. :)
It seems like every time I get on here I can explain another reason why the death penalty should be abolished!
Kenrichi, your exact quote: "We all make choices in our life and unfortunately they chose to do something that they couldn't undo."
What about the mentally ill? From deathpenaltyinfo.org :
"Daniel Lee Bedford was executed in Ohio on May 17, 2011.
The Supreme Court refused to block Bedford's execution, despite his lawyers' claims that he suffered from dementia and wasn't competent enough to understand why he was even being executed."
And there are many more of these cases where people are being executed for doing something awful, yes, but they didn't even know what they were doing because they were mentally ill. But we still execute them. Just another reason to totally get rid of the death penalty.
His lawyers had to say that. It was their job. It doesn't make it true.
I used to be for the death penalty, especially in cases where there were mass shootings/murders. But now? I'm not sure...I mean, personally I'm uncomfortable with it, but since I like arguing facts, I'm not gonna go by personal preference...
First, I think that it's a lot worse for someone to be stuck in a prison for the rest of their life and never see daylight again. In that sense, the death penalty would be more of a reprieve than the ultimate punishment, so...
But then there's the problem that the government will have to "take care" of this person (Clothing, food, bed, medical) and that could be extremely costly to do. And why would they want to do that after the person did something bad enough for a death penalty? That's from a financial standpoint.
Basically, there could be a lot of views taken and I am pretty torn.
But for things like mass murder and stuff of that degree, I guess personally I would say yes.
I just don't know.
What about a humanitarian standpoint? Caging people like animals is wrong. If someone does something so awful, it would warrant jail time, there has to be some other way they can redeem themselves, like community service. I'll never forget the day my cousin got sentenced to twenty to life for third degree murder. He's not the most sane person in the world, but he knew enough that when the judge told him he would be in prison for twenty years he pleaded for the death penalty, and then when they refused he pleaded for banishment to a foreign country. He refused to leave the courtroom until his sentence was changed from being caged to something humane, and he was eventually escorted out. If he chose the death penalty over jail time, that has to say something.
I think the death penalty is extremely hypocritical. "killing someone is wrong, and to teach you that lesson we are going to kill you." How does that make sense? I believe that there is good in all people, some just need help finding it within themselves.
Killing is morally neutral. Murder is wrong.
If you commit bad crimes you get solitary for life. It's worse than the DP. also se.x offenders get 8------ D chopped off.
If I believed in hel.l I'd like the DP but I don't so I see no reason for it.